Ron Bienvenu joins us for a very intriguing chat about his philosophy and latest book  "The Fifth Shock - Human Agency in the Post Biological Age of the Stack".   We talk about his tangles in tech and Wall Street going back to the early 00's, his first book The Fourth Shock, asynchronous data, Big data, ai, block chain, The Stack, examples like Northern Telecom collapse, network supremacy, universal behavioural income, monetizing personal data, economic theories, taxes and money printing, capitalism, the Node State, and the LA machine version of beauty.   In the second half we get into King Trump of North America, meeting Trump, stick in the eye, people need to rise up, non violent revolutions, the Ptolemaic system, The Catholic Church and papacy, Copernicus, the Rise of Homo Noeticus, the scale example, more on the The Stack, TLC, pain and suffering, Making Love and Atlas Shrugged.   Philosopher, entrepreneur, and digital futurist exploring the collision between technology, ethics, and human identity.   The Fifth Shock is not just a book—it’s a revelation. It proposes that we are living through a civilizational mutation more profound than the Agricultural or Industrial Revolutions. I call this mutation “The Stack”—a digital, planetary infrastructure that is reshaping reality, identity, economics, even death itself. But unlike previous shocks in history, this one targets the soul.   The book traces five evolutionary engines—Agriculture, Combustion, Electrification, Digitization, and now the Stack. Each turned the human being into something new. The Stack, however, does not just change what we do—it changes what we are. Surveillance, algorithmic prediction, biometric data mining, and behavioral finance are no longer science fiction—they are infrastructure. They are the new gods. https://x.com/TheFifthShock   https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F53Q4K8W?ref=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_Z2VJTF6SCWT6H5473B9N&ref_=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_Z2VJTF6SCWT6H5473B9N&social_share=cm_sw_r_ffobk_cp_ud_dp_Z2VJTF6SCWT6H5473B9N&bestFormat=true&previewDoh=1   To gain access to the second half of show and our Plus feed for audio and podcast please clink the link http://www.grimericaoutlawed.ca/support.   For second half of video (when applicable and audio) go to our Substack and Subscribe. https://grimericaoutlawed.substack.com/ or to our Locals  https://grimericaoutlawed.locals.com/ or Rokfin www.Rokfin.com/Grimerica Patreon https://www.patreon.com/grimericaoutlawed   Support the show directly: https://grimericacbd.com/ CBD / THC Tinctures and Gummies https://grimerica.ca/support-2/ Eh-List Podcast and site: https://eh-list.ca/ Eh-List YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheEh-List Our Adultbrain Audiobook Podcast and Website: www.adultbrain.ca Our Audiobook Youtube Channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@adultbrainaudiobookpublishing/videos Darren's book www.acanadianshame.ca Check out our next trip/conference/meetup - Contact at the Cabin www.contactatthecabin.com Other affiliated shows: www.grimerica.ca The OG Grimerica Show www.Rokfin.com/Grimerica Our channel on free speech Rokfin Join the chat / hangout with a bunch of fellow Grimericans  Https://t.me.grimerica https://www.guilded.gg/chat/b7af7266-771d-427f-978c-872a7962a6c2?messageId=c1e1c7cd-c6e9-4eaf-abc9-e6ec0be89ff3   Leave a review on iTunes and/or Stitcher: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/grimerica-outlawed http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/grimerica-outlawed Sign up for our newsletter http://www.grimerica.ca/news SPAM Graham = and send him your synchronicities, feedback, strange experiences and psychedelic trip reports!! [email protected] InstaGRAM https://www.instagram.com/the_grimerica_show_podcast/  Purchase swag, with partial proceeds donated to the show www.grimerica.ca/swag Send us a postcard or letter http://www.grimerica.ca/contact/ ART - Napolean Duheme's site http://www.lostbreadcomic.com/  MUSIC Tru Northperception, Felix’s Site sirfelix.bandcamp.com