Josh McKinney and Chris Odell have a fun talk about various topics revolving mostly around Josh's life journey from being a fat kid needing exercise to becoming a top level competitor, to founding his own gym.

Josh is also the host of a podcast that Datsusara proudly sponsors called "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu". " where "each episode will help you suck just a little less at jiu-jitsu, or your money back"!

Josh McKinney's "I Suck at Jiu-Jitsu" Podcast and YouTube Channel

Sponsored by Datsusara "Hemp Gear for Victory"

Intro and outro music by Twenty Shades of Red with excerpts from a speech by Alan Watts (Do You Do It, or Does It Do You).