We're talking about Minutes 63 & 64 of The Muppets Take Manhattan, in which Bernard Crawford agrees to produce Manhattan Melodies. With special guest Michal Richardson, co-host of the Muppeturgy podcast!

PLUS: What's so different about Manhattan Melodies? Depressing Kodak commercials! What's that clanging sound? All-singing, all-dancing! And unusual things to do with Jell-O!

ALSO: Read Ryan's piece on the Muppets and Art Carney's Santa-Matic Universe on ToughPigs.com!

Hosted by Anthony Strand & Ryan Roe

Guest Michal Richardson

Produced & Edited by Ryan Roe

Theme Music by Staci Rosen

Logo by Morgan Davy