For those of you who haven't listened to our first interview with Carlos Wray, what's wrong with you? Listen to it. Now. We're on Spotify, Google Podcasts and Anchor. Get with the program!

Not long after that interview, Carlos expressed interest in coming back to talk about the 2012-2015 bowl games. All four of them. And when you get a chance to talk Duke bowls, you say "Yes!" It took some time to get through them all, the run time is close to two hours, but it's well worth it. We learn a lot about some big games and big plays that culminated in a win over Indiana in the Pinstripe Bowl in 2015.

In addition to the bowl games, we get into each of the four seasons and cover some big wins including one from 2012.

I can't say thank you enough to Carlos for being willing to come on and do another interview. (And fingers crossed, a third one may be coming this summer.)