Cheers to another IPA that Bettina doesn't like, but Beth Loves! This week Utah is the state the gals are covering.  Bettina begins the episode with the true crime story featuring the absurd Martin MacNeill.  Beth ends the podcast with two paranormal tales;  Big Cottonwood Canyon Road and the Old Paper Mill at the mouth of Big Cottonwood Canyon.  Cheers! Join us on PATREON for early released episode as well as EXTRA episodes! Find photos from this episode and other on our WEBSITE!!