Ricky Varandas, host of The Ripple Effect Podcast and co-host of the Union of the Unwanted, asked for a three-person conversation including Midnight Mike from the OBDM Podcast about the current UFO discussion. It led to this discussion about the involvement of intelligence agencies, advanced technologies, secret societies, NASA, the CIA, the Mainstream Media, and a distrusting general public.

The idea of multiple dimensions has become normalized recently through films and television shows, almost as if on purpose to plant the seed that this is an explanation for high strangeness. Is this all part of a much larger psychological operation for control over the planet? One of NASA’s most famous Nazi scientists declared that the last card to be played would be the fake alien invasion, so are we to believe him?

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