FIRST SEGMENT: Matthew Kresal on his book, Dark Skies and talks about his research into the making of the series, how he delved into the history of the UFO phenomenon and how the history of government disinformation comes into play and much more. SECOND SEGMENT: Co-creator of Dark Skies, Bryce Zabel joins is to discuss behind the scenes of Dark Skies, and then a new project he has in the works, featuring the Betty & Barney Hill Incident. Check out the show notes for links.   Show Notes