We're talking about Minutes 39-40 of The Muppet Christmas Carol, in which Scrooge leaves school for his job at Fozziwig's. With EXTREMELY special guest Craig Shemin, Muppet writer and author of the book Sam and Friends: The Story of Jim Henson's First Television Show!

PLUS: What does Gonzo whisper in Sam's ear? The brilliance of costume designer Polly Smith! Why don't Muppets get set on fire more often? How does Gonzo stand on a ladder? And Craig tells us all about the Muppet Christmas Carol panel at D23 AND his book about Sam and Friends! It's a Christmas feast of fascinating information!

ALSO: Watch video of the D23 Muppet Christmas Carol panel on YouTube!

ALSO: Find out more about Craig's amazing Sam and Friends book on the official website!

ALSO: Find out more about the Museum of the Moving Image screenings of the movie on their website!

ALSO: See a photo of Gonzo standing on a ladder on ToughPigs.com!

Hosted by Anthony Strand & Ryan Roe

Guest Craig Shemin

Produced & Edited by Ryan Roe

Logo by Morgan Davy