The Talk Show With John Gruber

438: ‘2025 Year in Review’, With Rene Ritchie

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A look back at Apple’s 2025, with special guest Rene Ritchie.

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    • Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.

    Links:

    • The classic Mac OS Appearance Manager and its support for (rather garish) themes:
      • ATPM, August 2000: “GUI Junkie: Schemin’ and Themin’” by Christopher Turner. Includes screenshots.
    • Wikipedia: Appearance Manager.
    • Luria Petrucci celebrates 20 years on YouTube.
    • Steve Jobs on product people vs. sales/marketing people, back in the early 1990s.
    • John Browett’s brief tenure running retail at Apple back in 2012. His sacking was effectively a footnote in the announcement that Apple had parted with Scott Forstall.

      • This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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