The Talk Show With John Gruber

450: ‘Perp Walk for Selfies’, With Jason Snell


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Jason Snell returns to the show for a look back at WWDC 2026, and a look ahead to Designed in California, his and Myke Hurley’s upcoming 50-episode Apple history podcast.

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  • Transcripts: Unofficial but surprisingly good.

    Links:

    • Designed in California” — Kickstarter campaign running through the end of June 2026 to fund Jason and Myke Hurley’s 50-episode Apple history podcast. If you don’t back this you’re not hooked up right.
    • WebKit in Safari 27 changes and notes, from the WebKit blog.
    • Helium — My favorite Chromium browser for the Mac. Fast, free, no bloat.
    • Camino — An open source Mac-assed web browser based on the Mozilla engine from the 2000s. Last updated in 2012, but, blessedly, the website still works. When it was discontinued I described it as “like a glass of ice water on a hot day for Mac users who wanted a modern but Mac-like browser in the early years of Mac OS X.”.
    • Photos of John Ternus and Tim Cook at Apple’s WWDC post-Keynote “Tech Talk”:
      • Mine.
    • Federico Viticci’s.
    • Jason on BBEdit 16, the world’s greatest text editor.
    • Jason, writing at Macworld, on the foundation of Apple’s OS 27 updates.
    • Jason, writing at Macworld, on Mac OS X Snow Leopard back in 2009. (The update cost $29 — which we thought was cheap, because previous Mac OS X updates cost $129.)
    • Boston College’s Schiller Institute for Integrated Science and Society.
    • This episode of The Talk Show was edited by Caleb Sexton.

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