In this episode, Xavier Bonilla has a dialogue with Carl Benedikt Frey about technology and economics throughout history. They discuss why decentralized systems create an environment for innovation, Ancient China’s centralized efforts, Europe’s competitive state during the enlightenment, U.S. and decentralization, modern regulations, AI and our future, and many more topics.

Carl-Benedikt Frey is the Dieter Schwarz Associate Professor of AI & Work at the Oxford Internet Institute and a Fellow of Mansfield College, University of Oxford. He also directs the Future of Work Programme at the Oxford Martin School, where he serves as Oxford Martin Citi Fellow.

After studying economics, history, and management at Lund University, Frey completed his PhD at the Max Planck Institute for Innovation and Competition in 2011 and went on to found Oxford’s programme on the Future of Work. He is an Economics Associate of Nuffield College and Senior Fellow at the Institute for New Economic Thinking at Oxford, and remains an Associate Fellow in Economic History at Lund University. He is the author of the latest book, How Progress Ends: Technology, Innovation, and the Fate of Nations.

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