With a BIG discussion around being vegan and plant based currently there is a lot of talk around dairy, some claiming its evil, some claiming welfare standards are poor, some claiming its contributing to health issues, so why not chat to a 3rd generation dairy farmer? I've developed a relationship with Joseph Heler Cheese who make the EatLean cheese and their CEO George Helen, an awesome guy. We sit down and discuss dairy farming and how our milk is produced, the standards they set for their dairy, what music cows like, nutrition comparisons of dairy and their dairy alternatives, the future of food and dairy, and his companies journey into being a 170 employee cheese producer from starting with 40 cows and a dilapidated farm.