In this fiery episode, host Niall sits down with outspoken journalist Ian O’Doherty to ask a question at the heart of a growing national debate: “Whose job is it to teach primary school children about sex and sexual orientation — parents, or the state?”

The conversation is sparked by the government’s newly revised primary school curriculum, which for the first time introduces lessons on sexual orientation and earlier discussions of puberty. Education Minister Helen McEntee insists the changes are age-appropriate and necessary for respect and understanding. But many parents are pushing back, saying this is a line the state should never cross.

As Niall and Ian dive into the issue, the phone lines light up — and the callers don’t hold back. Some argue schools should teach only the basics of biology, leaving sensitive conversations about sexuality to families. Others say parents can’t always be relied upon to cover these topics responsibly, and schools have a duty to ensure every child receives the same level of information and respect. A few listeners even suggest a middle ground: that schools provide neutral information, while parents handle the “values” side of the conversation.

Expect sharp exchanges, passionate opinions, and more than a little mayhem as Niall steers through the storm of perspectives.