Jen Grant has spent the last 15 years building companies from the ground-up and taking multiple companies such as Box and Looker to over a billion dollar valuation as a CMO. She also spent 4 years at Google, leading the Google Apps EDU, Gmail, and Book Search marketing teams. Now, she’s moved into the early stage CEO role at Appify, the “no code” platform for mobile apps. We talk product-market fit, marketing and sales in the age of Covid, and why women CEOs are the future. Join the conversation on the Podopolo podcast app.