In this episode, host Niall speaks with TD Paul Lawless about the rejection of the abortion bill and the key arguments that led to its defeat in the Dáil. Paul shares his perspective on the vote, the concerns raised by TDs, and what the outcome means for future legislation.

The conversation then turns to the controversial fox hunting bill, which would prevent farmers from shooting foxes on their own land. Paul outlines the reasoning behind the proposed legislation and responds to criticism from rural communities who say foxes are devastating lambs and livelihoods.

Niall also opens the lines to callers, asking a tough question: Should fox hunting be banned, even when farmers say they are being scourged by fox attacks on their livestock? A lively and wide-ranging discussion follows, highlighting the clash between animal welfare, rural realities, and political decision-making.