David Patrikarakos speaks to Iran expert Holly Dagres to unpick one of the most complex countries on earth – Iran. The two discuss whether the Islamic Republic really wants to wipe out the West; just how stable it is; and, why its huge Gen Z population may prove to be the most significant factor in long term geopolitics of the Middle East.

Producer: Max Bower 

Editor: Alex Graham

Executive Producer: Bella Soames 

Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini 

Host: David Patrikarakos

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