I didn’t bring Mastin Kipp on the show because Oprah called him a “thought leader for the next generation.” I brought him on because, when I reconnected with his work after years apart from it, I felt a new groundedness, a shift from motivational self-help and personal transformation, to something deeper…talking about the body, the nervous system, and real emotional wellbeing.

We start by diving into Mastin’s journey, from managing platinum-selling rock bands to pioneering Functional Life Coaching, and a series of synchronistic awakenings. His story is a reminder that no matter how much you achieve, if your system isn’t safe, you’ll keep crashing into the same wall.

There was one central teaching that will be especially valuable to those on the growth path: It’s not about being calm all the time. The real gift is how fast you return to baseline after life knocks you sideways.

If you’re craving real change, in leadership, love, business, or your inner world, this episode will interest you. We cover science, somatics, the “dirty fuel” of entrepreneurship, and the art of spotting your hidden trauma by noticing the thing you complain about most.