Lez Roll Radio

66. Can You Get a Black Belt Without Training


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In this episode, we explore one of the most controversial questions in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. We discuss injuries, physical limitations, and how life circumstances can affect time on the mat. We also examine the role of instructors who teach while still working toward their own black belt, and whether knowledge, experience, and contribution to the art can ever outweigh consistent physical training. A deep dive into what a black belt truly represents.

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