'I regard my seventh book, Curlews on Vulture Street ... as my first real writing. You know, this is the one I'm most proud of. It was the biggest challenge and the one I enjoyed the most.' Urban ecologist and noted bird guy Darryl Jones joins us to share his transition from popular science to narrative nonfiction writer.

Darryl discusses the importance of having a beginner's mindset, what life is like now that he's a full-time writer, buried treasure, and his experience of living with Parkinson's. And of course we talk birds! Should you feed the birds in Australia? Do rainbow lorikeets eat mince? Plus, our special bonus guest – the eastern koel that lives outside Ashley's window and has been shrieking her awake at 5 am every morning!

Darryl Jones is a Professor of Ecology at Griffith University in Brisbane, where for over 30 years he has been investigating the many ways people and wildlife interact. He is particularly interested in why some species are extremely successful in urban landscapes, and how best to deal with the ensuing conflicts. More recently, he has been trying to understand more about the humans that also live in cities in large numbers, and how they engage with nature. This has led him into the strange and fascinating world of wild bird feeding. He is the author of several books, including 'The Birds at My Table', 'Feeding the Birds at Your Table', and his latest, 'Curlews on Vulture Street'.

Books and authors discussed in this episode:

• Auē by Becky Manawatu;
• The Tilt by Chris Hammer;
• The Writer Laid Bare by Lee Kofman (featured in ep 3);
• One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez;
• Tracker by Alexis Wright;
• Feeding the Birds at Your Table by Darryl Jones

Get your copy of 'Curlews on Vulture Street' from your local bookshop, Booktopia or wherever good books are sold. And if you want your own bush stone curlew t-shirt, you can find it here.

James' novel 'Denizen' is out now! Learn more about it and buy your copy here.

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