Accidental Tech Podcast

687: You Can Bend This Line

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  • Pre-show: Casey requests an app from Marco
    • Roon
    • Nugs
    • 🗣️ ATP STORE IS LIVE! 🗣️
    • 🗣️ New ATP Member Special: ATP Dev: Nuggets of Wisdom
    • Follow-up:
      • Suunto is… not young (via Henri Sivonen)
        • Garmin did beat Suunto to GPS watch though
        • The other neat explainer John was thinking of (via Ben Landsberg)
          • Previously:
            • Eric Portis on Color Spaces
            • Bartosz Ciechanowski on… anything
            • Is Apple running out of A18 Pros‽ 😱
            • Apple IDs & passkeys (via Vitor)
              • Others with this issue
              • Apple said it’d be fixed… two years ago
              • Stealing TV… may not be so wise. Shocker! (via Nye Hughes)
                • See also:
                  • Krebs on Security
                  • Darknet Diaries (via David Brownman)
                  • Ads are coming to Apple Maps
                    • Newsroom
                    • AI-generated code & copyright
                      • AI-generated art can’t be copyrighted
                      • Can coding agents “relicense” through clean-room re-implementation?
                        • No right to relicense this project
                        • Monkey selfie
                        • Claude, rewrite yourself
                        • Ask ATP:
                          • When Marco goes on a saunter with two watches, are the measurements similar? (via Jason)
                          • Why did Marco bother with colocation? (via Stephen Gozza)
                          • Post-show: Casey’s silly new toy
                            • Alex’s overview
                            • Screenshot of a Linux machine
                            • Screenshot of a Mac
                            • Members-only ATP Overtime: John tries to reach acceptance
                              • Apple approves AMD & Nvidia eGPU drivers
                              • What if Apple adopted “MPX”-style modules? (via Jan Wedekind)
                                • MK1 High Density Rack Mount
                                • Bandwidth comparisons
                                  • Thunderbolt 5
                                    • 80 Gbit/s symmetric
                                    • 120 Gbit/s unidirectional for displays
                                    • SSD (M5 Max MacBook pro, 4 TB)
                                      • 109 Gbit/s (13.6 GB/s) read
                                      • 142 Gbit/s (17.8 GB/s) write
                                      • PCIe speeds on PCIe 5.0
                                        • 1 lane: 32 Gbit/s (4 GB/s)
                                        • 16 lanes: 512 Gbit/s (64 GB/s)
                                        • …as compared to the Mac Pro’s 64 lanes across 4 slots (2,048 GBit/s)
                                          • 17× Thunderbolt 5’s maximum single-direction speed
                                          • Internal vs. external SSD
                                            • 2025 Mac Studio: ~5.5 GB/s
                                            • OWC Envoy Ultra: ~5.1 GB/s; 8 TB for $2,250
                                            • OWC Thunderblade: ~5.75 GB/s; 8 TB for $2,700
                                            • PolySoft third-party internal SSDs
                                              • Kickstarter (ended November 2024)

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                                                  Accidental Tech PodcastBy Marco Arment, Casey Liss, John Siracusa
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