On episode 69 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Tim Sackett, Jessica Lee and Kris Dunn come together to discuss Shopify's CEO laying a smackdown on workplace politics and how hiring in the post-COVID era is the risky age of the "quick quit."

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SHOW HIGHLIGHTS:

2:00 - KD (our resident book expert) mentions the book, Edge City, about suburban areas that become their own city when it gets enough leasable commercial real estate. 

5:20 - KD asks the crew what they wear on the Fourth of July. Tim and his family wear the Old Navy flag t-shirts every year. 

8:30 - Tim and his wife went to DC for the 4th when his wife was pregnant for the first time and they were not prepared for the madness!

9:30: KD is seeing so much fast-churn in the hiring world right now due to the tight job market and heavy hiring right now. 

12:30 - JLee is really fascinated by the metrics of a “quick-quit” or a “quick-churn”. She mentions that it’s really important when her company is opening new hotels. 

15:30 - Tim mentions how HR treats new employees so roughly and treats them as if they’re seasoned employees. This can ruin new hires and make them want to leave. 

18:40 - JLee says that onboarding shouldn’t be treated as one person’s job, just like company culture. Everyone plays a role and everyone needs to be all in. 

22:00 - Tim says that a piece of the onboarding issue is relationship-based. Good recruiters can do this well because they are good at building that relationship. 

25:00 - Everyone’s favorite topic: politics in the workplace! KD brings up the Canadian company, Shopify. Their CEO made a statement saying that their company is not a family but it is a great team. The statement was made to try and tamp down divisiveness on politics within their teams.  KD notes that the CEO is left leaning, had enough of activist employees and that his guidance was epic. 

29:30 - Tim speaks about how if he’s working with someone that is good at their job and giving him what he needs from a team perspective, that’s all that matters to him. He doesn’t have to be friends with everyone he works with.

32:00 - Jessica commends the statement for discussing how there isn’t a one-size-fits-all approach for how a company can approach politics and social issues and everyone will do it for how it fits their culture.

---------------Jessica Lee, Kris Dunn and Tim Sackett

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