Guest: Kip Brooks | Honest as Hail: Men of Metal Episode Summary Gene Fetty and Kip Brooks meet up in person — halfway between Pittsburgh and Cleveland — for a cross-promotional episode recorded in Gene's truck. Kip brings a background in neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) and soft skills sales training, and the two dig into practical techniques PDR techs can use to build rapport faster, sell with more confidence, and stop letting mindset get in the way of closing. Key Topics The 3–7 second first impression window — and why context changes the clock Neuro-linguistic programming (NLP): what it is, how it started, and how it applies to sales The 'know, like, and trust' framework — all three must be in place for a sale Zig Ziglar's moral obligation: if you believe in your product, you're obligated to sell it Belief and congruence — customers feel hesitation before they can explain it Why learning conventional repair costs (body shop pricing) makes you a better PDR salesperson Flipping the mindset switch when the phone rings mid-repair Smiling on the phone — how it changes tonality and why that matters The psychological sigh — a breathing reset before a customer interaction Finger-to-thumb breathing trick to shift from chest breathing to diaphragm breathing Matching your customer's speaking cadence to build unconscious rapport How to handle a room or a group with mixed energy types — start at the middle NLP modeling: breaking down what top performers do and replicating it Guest Links — Kip Brooks / Honest as Hail: Men of Metal Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/honest-as-hail-men-of-metal/id1884169242 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7AKTwrTTFYWYCig3DS790N?si=ZeA4yDolQXyElhh0Jo8mSA YouTube: https://youtube.com/@themenofmetal?si=ZJYQonuCL6aHcpl6 Facebook: Search Kip Brooks or Kipnosis Mentioned in This Episode Zig Ziglar — moral obligation to sell Nicholas Boothman — How to Make Someone Like You in 90 Seconds or Less Tony Robbins — introduction to NLP concepts Alex Hormozi — lack of information as the root of indecision PDR College Podcast (Keith Cosentino) Blackout Burger — where this episode was born PDR Expo 2026 The Rio, Las Vegas | September 25–26 Gene's cold glue class + The Roundtable of Knowledge. Keith Cosentino MC'ing the roundtable. pdrexpo.com Follow Dent Repair Now @dentrepairnow across all platforms. Help Gene hit 10K on Facebook!