This is the first of a three-part series of conversations with Josh and Gary Freeman, a former guest on our podcast. In this episode they discuss Gary's new ministry, on relationships being key to white and black people understanding each other better, as well as the need to serve people well in spite of cultural differences.

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Chapters:

05:02 Why Gary is choosing to focus his ministry on local needs, instead of national work

9:59 Setting the stage for this episode

13:07 Where Gary is politically

17:24 Where Josh is politically

20:55 Why does there have to be a "black church"?

33:12 On white and black people understanding each other more through relationship

48:04 On the need to serve people well in spite of cultural differences

Josh's speech on relational apologetics: https://youtu.be/ndO3nByqVrM