As we continue to discuss the topic of building people alongside building a vision, R.A. Martinez interviews special guest Katy Cerny, director of a ministry called Prisoners of Hope (POH). POH is a healing and deliverance ministry based in Kansas City, MO. Katy shares her story of starting Prisoners of Hope and her thoughts about the place of inner healing and deliverance in the life of the believer, especially for those in vocational ministry and missions. The discussion turns to Isaiah 61 and the authority we have been given as believers to bind up the broken hearted, set captives free, and lift people out of the ashes of brokenness.