In a world that feels increasingly unpredictable, how do we know what’s ours to do?

In this episode, Tim and Tues reflect on recent conversations with Zaid Hassan and Sommer Sibilly-Brown - two leaders taking bold, values-driven action in complex times. Together, they explore the tension between clarity and doubt, the limits of strategy in a rapidly changing world, and why action - not perfection - is what moves things forward.

From climate anxiety to leadership fatigue, this conversation doesn’t shy away from the weight of the moment. But it also offers something grounding: a reminder that we don’t need all the answers to begin. Sometimes, it’s about trusting what’s clear, noticing what’s habitual, and doing the next right thing in front of us.

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• Listen to the episode with Zaid
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