Jeff Deuble of the Churches of Christ in Sydney, Australia shares his journey to uncover the genuine Jesus from scripture alone. After his brother Greg challenged him to understand Christ from a Jewish perspective, Jeff set out on a quest, reading through all of scripture to see what it really said about the Messiah. What he found upended his life, bringing both delight at his clearer understanding of Christ and heartbreak over losing the church he planted and pastored for 19 years.

He pens the book – Christ Before Creeds.

The book cover says:

Just when you thought you knew who Jesus was, along comes a book like this to profoundly challenge and wonderfully inspire. Most Christians are unaware of how different their Western worldview is from those who wrote the original accounts of Jesus’ life. Pastor Jeff Deuble issues a clarion call to prioritize biblical testimony over the later church creeds that were influenced by Greek philosophical thinking, so as to rediscover simple, uncluttered Christianity.

Meticulously presenting information from biblical, historical, Jewish, and Christian sources about how the early followers of Christ thought about him, this book promises new insight and an enriched understanding of Christ’s identity. More than informative, Christ Before Creeds is an invitation to examine the identity of Jesus the Messiah, engaging with respect and grace.

The full name of the book is “Christ Before Creeds: Rediscovering the Jesus of History”

The book is available from Amazon and other bookshops such as Dymocks.

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It (the trinity) was a post Apostolic Development

Here in is some very good detail digging below the surface of the story that of often told – Constantine wanted the troublesome few to go way’ – in fact the events were very different indeed.

1. A few of the writings of the church fathers indicate that they did not believe in anything like the trinity.

2. The process for its acceptance as orthodox was flawed

It was, as we might have surmised – all politics.

3. It contains inherent rational and theological discrepancies.

These are well known and are often dismissed with the “it’s a mystery” claim but to expect an answer is not unreasonable: