On episode eighty five of Holy Ghost Notes, Matt and Tim go down a rabbit hole about radio. Then they refocus and get into their drum topic; speaking on five ways (and then some) to improve your drumming, where they each take turns listing tactics that they feel are important when it comes to advancing as a drummer. In concluding the drum topic, the guys enter into their faith topic of pride and explore the gray area between confidence and arrogance. They quickly discover that there’s a lot more to pride than it simply “coming before a fall”.