9 to FI - Financial Independence Conversations

9 to FI - Financial Independence Conversations

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9 to FI - Financial Independence Conversations episodes

  • From Nervous Speakers to Confident Podcasters | 9toFI 011 | 9 to FI Podcast

    From Nervous Speakers to Confident Podcasters

    In this episode, Elliot and Josh reflect on their podcast journey, particularly revisiting their very first episode, 'Intro to 9 to FI.' They discuss the feedback received and their initial challenges, then outline their personal and shared goals for the podcast. These goals include becoming better speakers, having deeper and more meaningful conversations, meeting new people, and impacting others' lives. This episode is a candid and unedited discussion about their aspirations and the future direction of the podcast.

    00:00 Introduction and First Episode Recap

    00:16 Reflecting on Feedback and Improvements

    01:21 Setting Goals for the Podcast

    01:56 Personal Development Goals

    03:38 Deep Conversations and Feedback

    04:56 Meeting New People and Overcoming Anxieties

    06:16 Impacting Lives and Financial Independence

    07:10 Preparing for Early Retirement

    08:15 Learning New Skills and Marketing

    09:31 Sustainability and Enjoying the Process

    10:42 Conclusion and Call to Action

    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


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    12 min
  • How to avoid Retirement Burnout | 9toFI 010 | 9 to FI Podcast

    How to avoid Retirement Burnout | 9toFI 010 | 9 to FI Podcast

    Elliot and Josh continue their deep dive into retirement planning on this episode of the 9 to FI Podcast. Reflecting on their meticulously planned retirement schedules, they share their real post-retirement experiences, highlighting the inevitable deviations and surprises. Josh opens up about the challenges of maintaining a perfect retirement day, dealing with cognitive overload, and the struggle to balance multiple interests and obligations. They explore the importance of flexibility, the evolution of personal schedules, and the universal human tendency to overcommit. Tune in to gain insights into navigating the unpredictable journey of early retirement, along with practical tips on managing activities and expectations.

    00:00 Introduction and Welcome

    00:13 Recap of the Perfect Retirement Plan

    01:28 Josh's Perfect Day Vision

    03:34 Elliot's Perfect Day Vision

    06:10 Reality of Retirement: The First Week

    10:11 Adjusting the Plan: Overwhelm and Realizations1

    5:24 Balancing Activities and Mental Health

    19:29 The Struggle of Saying No

    28:19 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    30 min
  • Planning Your Perfect Post-Work Life | 9toFI 009 | 9 to FI Podcast

    Planning Your Perfect Post Work Life | 9toFI 009 | 9 to FI Podcast

    Join Elliot and Josh as they delve deep into the concept of early retirement and the journey of financial independence. Josh shares his personal experiences and plans leading up to his transition to early retirement, emphasizing the importance of having a purpose and activities to retire to. The episode explores various exercises and strategies to prepare for a fulfilling retirement, addressing concerns about potential boredom and anxiety. They discuss the balance between decompression and productivity, stressing the value of intentional planning and regular self-reflection. Whether you're nearing retirement or just considering it, this episode offers valuable insights and practical advice for a smoother transition.

    00:00 Introduction and Greetings

    00:08 Discussing Early Retirement Plans

    00:54 Concerns About Early Retirement

    01:47 Planning for Post-Retirement Life

    06:34 Creating a Retirement To-Do List

    09:19 Finding Purpose in Retirement

    12:06 Reflecting on Retirement Activities

    19:25 Adapting to Retirement Life

    26:18 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    28 min
  • Crafting Community on the Road to FI | 9toFI 008 | 9 to FI Podcast

    Crafting Community on the Road to FI

    Join Josh and Elliot as they dive into their weekend activities and talk about the value of community. They recount experiences from fixing rental properties and attending children's soccer games, to meeting and learning about the Financial Independence (FI) community. The discussion touches on car repairs, kid's sports, and engaging with local FI meetups. Find out how Elliot and Josh fostered their FI communities before and after retirement, the challenges they faced, the benefits of being part of a cohesive group, and the importance of pushing out of one’s comfort zone to connect with like-minded individuals. This conversation not only highlights their personal journeys but also offers insights on how to build and sustain community ties in pursuit of financial independence.

    00:00 Opening Banter

    00:40 Car Troubles and DIY Fixes

    02:25 Kids' Soccer and Healthy Competition

    04:25 Introduction to Community Building

    05:07 Personal Community Stories

    08:36 Discovering Financial Independence

    13:32 Attending In-Person Events

    26:01 Post-FI Community Building

    34:33 Encouragement to Build Community

    36:07 Closing Remarks and Call to Action

    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    37 min
  • Retire Early or Enjoy Now? | 9toFI 007 | 9 to FI Podcast

    Retire Early or Enjoy Now?

    Welcome to the 9 to FI Podcast with Elliot and Josh! In this episode, we explore the evolution of the Financial Independence, Retire Early (FIRE) movement. Starting with 'Old School' FIRE principles, focused on extreme frugality and rapid wealth accumulation, we transition into the emerging 'New FIRE' concepts like Slow FI, Barista FI, and Fat FI. Join us as we discuss the pros and cons of each approach, share personal journeys, and debate which method might be best for different lifestyles. We wrap up with some fun, quick-fire questions and encourage you to reflect on your own path to financial independence. Don't forget to like, subscribe, and leave a review!

    00:00 Introduction to the Podcast

    00:11 Old School FIRE: The Original Playbook

    01:30 New Voices in the FIRE Community

    02:41 Balancing Old and New FIRE Concepts

    04:14 Personal Stories and Reflections

    08:29 Core Tenets of Old School FIRE

    10:12 Shifts in the FIRE Movement

    11:15 Perfect Day in Retirement

    24:47 Lightning Round: Fun FIRE Choices

    27:46 Conclusion and Listener Engagement

    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    29 min
  • Are You Saving or Just Being Cheap? | 9toFI 006 | 9 to FI Podcast

    Are You Saving or Just Being Cheap? | 9 to FI Podcast

    Join Josh and Elliot in this episode of the 9 to FI Podcast as they delve into the often blurred line between frugality and being cheap. In a world where upgrading to the latest gadgets and luxurious cars is the norm, how do you define what's truly necessary versus what's merely extravagant? The hosts share personal anecdotes, discuss living intentionally with purchases, and address the stigma that surrounds frugal living. From scrutinizing phone plans and car choices to discussing the importance of intentional spending on food and experiences, this episode provides a comprehensive guide to making smart financial decisions without sacrificing quality of life. Don't miss their engaging debate and practical advice for navigating these common financial dilemmas!

    00:00 Introduction and Greetings

    00:10 Frugality vs. Cheapness: Setting the Stage

    01:06 Defining Frugality and Cheapness

    02:09 Personal Stories and Examples

    09:25 Phone Plans and Upgrades

    18:32 Car Choices and Social Perceptions

    28:04 Justifying Frugality to Others

    38:31 Challenges and Final Thoughts

    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    43 min
  • How to finally get your partner on the same page about Money | 9toFI 005 | 9 to FI Podcast

    How to finally get your partner on the same page about Money

    Welcome to the 9 to FI Podcast with hosts Elliot and Josh! In this episode, they dive into the topics of budgeting and the concept of 'money dates.' Elliot and Josh share personal experiences on how they and their partners manage finances and the evolution of their budgeting practices. They discuss the importance of budgeting for different life stages, strategies for making financial meetings enjoyable, and how communication plays a key role in financial planning. The hosts also touch on challenges of budgeting, setting financial goals, and the balance between strict budgeting and the anti-budget approach. This candid conversation is packed with valuable insights to help you and your partner achieve financial harmony.

    00:00 Introduction and Today's Topic

    01:11 The Importance of Budgeting

    04:28 Budgeting Strategies and Evolution

    08:27 Current Budgeting Systems

    14:54 Money Dates and Communication

    27:44 Conclusion and Next Steps


    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    32 min
  • Can you talk money with friends? | 9toFI 004 | 9 to FI Podcast

    Navigating Conversations about FIRE with Friends | 9 to FI Podcast

    Welcome to the 9 to FI Podcast with hosts Elliot and Josh. In this episode, we dive into the tricky topic of discussing FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) with friends. Imagine explaining to friends that you want to retire decades earlier than they thought possible. We cover why talking about money and FIRE can be challenging, share personal anecdotes, and offer tips on how to keep these conversations light and friendly. We also explore common reactions, from skepticism to genuine interest, and discuss how to avoid common pitfalls and missteps when introducing others to the FIRE movement. Join us for a candid discussion on how to navigate these important, but often taboo conversations!

    00:00 Introduction to the Nine to FI Podcast

    00:04 Explaining Financial Independence to Friends

    00:18 Personal Stories and Cultural Taboos Around Money

    03:24 Transparency and Celebrating Financial Success

    05:56 Consumerism and Financial Signaling

    07:34 Challenges of Discussing FIRE with Friends

    11:44 Skeptics and Misconceptions About Early Retirement

    15:48 Different Reactions to FIRE: Jokers, Uninterested, and Curious Friends

    23:22 Navigating Conversations About FIRE

    24:10 Personal Stories and Examples

    27:44 Crafting the FIRE Elevator Pitch

    34:42 Avoiding Common Pitfalls

    42:42 Lighthearted Stories and Mishaps

    47:04 Wrapping Up and Final Thoughts


    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    49 min
  • The Money Lessons that shaped Elliot | 9toFI 003| 9 to FI Podcast

    The Money Lessons that shaped Elliot.

    In this episode, Josh and Elliot recount their mutual connection, setting the stage for Elliot's captivating financial journey. Starting from a privileged yet not overly abundant childhood, Elliot navigates through private and public schooling, budget-conscious parenting, and early job experiences. He shares his early lessons on money, heavily influenced by his father's 'it's only money' mantra, and recounts the trials and triumphs he faced—from school transitions to job losses and personal hardships. Elliot's story doesn't stop there; he goes on to discuss his ventures into side hustles, relationships, and ultimately, his path to financial independence. Inspirational and introspective, this episode highlights the emotional and practical aspects of personal finance, the importance of mindset, and the value of persistence in overcoming financial and personal challenges. Don't miss out on this incredible journey of resilience and financial acumen


    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    44 min
  • From Financial Struggles to Early Retirement - Josh's Journey | 9toFI 002 | 9 to FI Podcast

    From Financial Struggles to Early Retirement: Josh's Journey


    In this episode, Josh and Elliot recount their personal stories of financial struggle and triumph. Josh shares his early experiences with money, growing up with modest means, and facing financial challenges through high school and early adulthood. From struggling with debt, foreclosure, and chapter seven bankruptcy, Josh narrates his journey to turning his finances around. The conversation also highlights Josh’s introduction to financial literacy through impactful books and blogs, leading him to the concept of financial independence. After years of dedicated learning and discipline, Josh recently retired early, achieving his financial goals. Tune in to learn from his inspiring story of resilience, financial awakening, and success.

    00:00 Introduction and Weekend Catch-Up

    02:55 Early Money Memories

    04:45 Middle School and High School Experiences

    07:43 First Job and Financial Struggles

    13:33 Early Adulthood and Family Life

    18:48 Financial Crisis and Divorce

    22:43 Financial Turmoil and Bankruptcy

    23:35 Employment Anxiety and Layoff Fears

    25:30 Meeting Lori and Shared Financial Struggles

    27:15 Discovering Financial Education

    28:45 Implementing Financial Strategies

    36:16 The Influence of Financial Blogs

    38:33 Discovering Financial Independence

    40:59 Achieving Early Retirement

    Do you have feedback or suggestions? We want to hear from you!

    Contact Elliot: [email protected]

    Contact Josh: [email protected]


    Any of these products help the show. Thanks for your support!

    Mint Mobile - We both use ⁠Mint Mobile⁠ and save a ton on our phone plan: ⁠https://fbuy.me/vgAmz⁠

    ⁠Empower⁠ is Josh’s choice for Net Worth and Budgeting

    Wanna create a podcast? We use ⁠Descript⁠

    Looking for a new credit card?  We’re big fans of ⁠Chase⁠

    ⁠Buy Us a Coffee⁠ - One time donation or monthly, it’s up to you

    Want to save money on gas? Try ⁠Upside!⁠

    Books mentioned in this episode:


    Come find us and subscribe on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@9toFI

    42 min

About 9 to FI - Financial Independence Conversations

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9 to FI is a Financial Independence podcast hosted by Elliot and Josh from St. Louis. Together, we share honest commentary on our journey to FI—covering wins, challenges, and lessons learned along the…