On episode ninety of Holy Ghost Notes, Matt talks about returning home from his European tour and summarizes his time on the road and Tim derails the conversation to stress the value of the business side of music. The guys quickly share a little bit about what this Christmas season looks like for each of them and then head into their drum topic; comparing how they approached drumming on their very first drum kits to how they approach drumming now. Then, Matt and Tim talk about being hurt by the church, the perspective they’ve gained through all of it, and the drive to maintain that perspective while continuing to seek the truth.