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What does it cost to keep singing about hope when your heart is shattered, success feels hollow, and grief follows you onto the biggest stages in the world?
Steven Curtis Chapman, the most awarded artist in Christian music history, five time Grammy winner, and the first contemporary Christian artist inducted into the Grand Ole Opry, joins Tim and Troy Green for a rare and unguarded conversation. This is not a highlight reel. It is the story of self doubt behind success, of nearly walking away from music, of adoption born from grace, and of worship sung in the shadow of unimaginable loss.
Steven reflects on the fleeting highs of acclaim, the quiet weight of family and marriage, and how songs like “Cinderella” emerged from pain rather than polish. Together, they explore faith under pressure, hope forged through suffering, and why the most enduring music often comes from the darkest valleys.
If you have ever questioned whether faith can survive profound loss, or whether calling and family can coexist under unbearable strain, this episode speaks directly to that place.
RESOURCES & LINKS
Show Hope – Steven and Mary Beth’s adoption ministry caring for orphans worldwide
Visit: https://showhope.org
Steven Curtis Chapman – Music, tour dates, and more
Visit: https://stevencurtischapman.com
Colony House – Music from Steven’s sons Caleb and Will Chapman
Visit: https://colonyhousemusic.com
CHAPTERS
00:00 Trailer
00:59 Intro
01:35 Introducing Steven Curtis Chapman
03:13 The Journey to Success
05:25 Struggles and Triumphs
09:09 The Calling and Craft of Songwriting
13:46 Breakthrough Moments and Personal Reflections
20:27 The Great Adventure and Unexpected Challenges
42:11 Reflecting on Self Doubt and Support
46:52 Grief, Faith, and God’s Faithfulness
52:06 Writing Songs Through Pain and Healing
01:01:56 The Impact of Adoption on Faith and Family
01:25:23 The Evolution of Music and Personal Growth
01:27:45 The One Song That Sums It All Up
01:29:40 Staying Humble Amidst Success
01:32:18 A Full Circle Moment at the Grand Ole Opry
01:33:47 Unreleased Songs and Mental Health
01:37:47 Beauty from Ashes: Show Hope and Maria’s Big House of Hope
01:41:14 The Grand Ole Opry Induction and Family Legacy
01:46:40 The Steve Saint Story: A Tale of Forgiveness
01:51:56 Faith Through Adversity
01:58:18 Family and Legacy
02:03:55 Final Reflections and Gratitude
SPONSORS
ElevenLabs: Thanks to ElevenLabs for supporting this episode and powering Tim’s voice.
https://elevenlabs.io
https://elevenlabs.io
SOCIAL
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What does it cost to keep singing about hope when your heart is shattered, success feels hollow, and grief follows you onto the biggest stages in the world?
Steven Curtis Chapman, the most awarded artist in Christian music history, five time Grammy winner, and the first contemporary Christian artist inducted into the Grand Ole Opry, joins Tim and Troy Green for a rare and unguarded conversation. This is not a highlight reel. It is the story of self doubt behind success, of nearly walking away from music, of adoption born from grace, and of worship sung in the shadow of unimaginable loss.
Steven reflects on the fleeting highs of acclaim, the quiet weight of family and marriage, and how songs like “Cinderella” emerged from pain rather than polish. Together, they explore faith under pressure, hope forged through suffering, and why the most enduring music often comes from the darkest valleys.
If you have ever questioned whether faith can survive profound loss, or whether calling and family can coexist under unbearable strain, this episode speaks directly to that place.
RESOURCES & LINKS
Show Hope – Steven and Mary Beth’s adoption ministry caring for orphans worldwide
Visit: https://showhope.org
Steven Curtis Chapman – Music, tour dates, and more
Visit: https://stevencurtischapman.com
Colony House – Music from Steven’s sons Caleb and Will Chapman
Visit: https://colonyhousemusic.com
CHAPTERS
00:00 Trailer
00:59 Intro
01:35 Introducing Steven Curtis Chapman
03:13 The Journey to Success
05:25 Struggles and Triumphs
09:09 The Calling and Craft of Songwriting
13:46 Breakthrough Moments and Personal Reflections
20:27 The Great Adventure and Unexpected Challenges
42:11 Reflecting on Self Doubt and Support
46:52 Grief, Faith, and God’s Faithfulness
52:06 Writing Songs Through Pain and Healing
01:01:56 The Impact of Adoption on Faith and Family
01:25:23 The Evolution of Music and Personal Growth
01:27:45 The One Song That Sums It All Up
01:29:40 Staying Humble Amidst Success
01:32:18 A Full Circle Moment at the Grand Ole Opry
01:33:47 Unreleased Songs and Mental Health
01:37:47 Beauty from Ashes: Show Hope and Maria’s Big House of Hope
01:41:14 The Grand Ole Opry Induction and Family Legacy
01:46:40 The Steve Saint Story: A Tale of Forgiveness
01:51:56 Faith Through Adversity
01:58:18 Family and Legacy
02:03:55 Final Reflections and Gratitude
SPONSORS
ElevenLabs: Thanks to ElevenLabs for supporting this episode and powering Tim’s voice.
https://elevenlabs.io
https://elevenlabs.io
SOCIAL
Website: https://nlupod.com
X: https://x.com/nlutimgreen
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NLUpod
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nlupod
LISTEN ON OTHER PLATFORMS
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nothing-left-unsaid/id1734094890
Audible: https://www.audible.com/podcast/Nothing-Left-Unsaid/B0CWTCRKGZ
Castbox: https://castbox.fm/channel/id6405921?country=us
Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1734094890
iHeartRadio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/263-nothing-left-unsaid-155769998/
PERSONAL
Tackle ALS: https://www.tackleals.com
Tim Green Books: https://authortimgreen.com
Tim’s New Book, Rocket Arm: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0062796895/
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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