Joe Dyke from Airwars.org joins the show to discuss his new report, coauthored with Imogen Piper, which attempts to count civilian deaths resulting directly from U.S. airstrikes during the Terror Wars. Dyke says he and his colleagues want civilian deaths to be part of the broader ongoing discussions about the cost of these wars. Scott and Dyke discuss the difficulties involved with trying to count civilian deaths and examine the costs and benefits of different methods. Both agree, regardless of method, it’s important work. Especially since the U.S. government has made no official estimates. 

Discussed on the show:

 “Tens of thousands of civilians likely killed by US in ‘Forever Wars’” (Airwars.org)

Cost of War Project at Brown University 

“The Other Afghan Women” (New Yorker)

“Looser rules, more civilian deaths, a Taliban takeover: Inside America’s failed Afghan drone campaign” (Connecting Vets)

“The Drone Papers” (The Intercept) 

George W. Bush speech after 9/11 

“The Iraq War Logs” (Wikileaks) 

 “Iraq war logs reveal 15,000 previously unlisted civilian deaths” (The Guardian) 

Joe Dyke is Senior Investigator at Airwars. He has a decade of experience living and working in the Middle East, carrying out in-depth investigations into conflict-related civilian harm. Follow his work on Twitter @joedyke.

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