Brent Beardall thinks bankers need to be more comfortable with risk. "We're not out there taking crazy risk, but my point is don't be afraid to fail," says the president and CEO of WaFd Bank, based in tech-focused Seattle. "If you're going to fail: fail quickly, fail small. That's the two requirements I have, because if you're not failing, you're not trying hard enough."

In the latest episode of the ABA Banking Journal Podcast — sponsored by Alkami — Beardall discusses technology experiments that didn't work, and those that did. He discusses the bank's tech lab subsidiary Archway Software and its combined voice- and phone-based authentication for wire transfers.

Beardall discusses WaFd's commercial real estate portfolio, which he notes is majority "stabilized multifamily, which is the safest asset class that we or any bank can make." Office buildings — the most distressed CRE asset class — account for just 4% of WaFd's portfolio, Beardall says, noting that CRE is a big and diverse sector beyond the office headlines.

Finally, Beardall talks about his remarkable personal story of surviving a deadly plane crash in early 2023. "You're flying on a jet airplane to go to the Rose Bowl, and all of a sudden you go from being pretty good to fighting for your life and you realize just how vulnerable you are and how precious life is because it can change in a heartbeat," he says. "People that I competed with, bankers that I would compete with, they set it all aside and said, "Let's focus on helping each other.' We have a lot more in common than we have in terms of differences, and let's give equal weight to what we have in common and work together for the collective good."