Dave and Nephi sit down with the new President and CEO of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers, Ryan "Cal" Callaghan. In this wide ranging discussion taking place in Nephi's hotel room, the guys talk about the role of Backcountry Hunters and Anglers (BHA) and its broad mission conserving and defending public lands. They also dive into topics such as accountability and advocacy, technology and fair chase, ballot initiatives and public opinion, conservation and stewardship, and membership organizations and community. Ryan also shares his Mountain. You won't want to miss this one.