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Featuring: Raul Ayala, Deputy Federal Public Defender at Office of the Federal Public Defender in the Central District of California and the collaborative court supervising attorney.

Ellen Yaroshefsky, The Howard Lichtenstein Distinguished Professor in Legal Ethics and Professor of Law.

Raul and Ellen join us to share what a day in the life is like for them as a public defender and an academic, respectively. Each shares their daily activities in addition to reflections on pivotal career moments that got them to where they are. Finally, they reflect on what they wish they would have known before working in their respective roles.


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