Business as usual? Not going to cut it in today’s energy reality. Embracing cutting-edge tech is the bare minimum to keep up with the modern needs of the modern grid.

That’s according to Raiford Smith, Global Head of Power & Energy for Cloud at Google, who joins Mike this week to break down the lessons energy can learn from Big Tech—and the lessons Big Tech can learn from energy.

Raiford explains Google’s strategy for big energy swings, the playbook for finding your competitive edge in a tech-enabled energy world, the new definition of “all of the above,” and so much more.

Because the clean, affordable, reliable energy future isn’t just about figuring out what works. It’s about figuring out how to get tech solutions to scale quickly. And that’s where utilities and Big Tech can make the biggest dent…together.