In today’s episode, we talk about what it says about the American church when a 60-year-old, tatted-up MAGA dad shows more moral clarity on drag queens, trans surgeries for minors, porn in schools, and abortion than the average pastor down the street. Seth Gruber sits down with Steve Deace at the Seven Weeks Coffee Studio during Life or Death Con to expose the rift in the pro-life movement and dismantle the “losing issues” lie that has paralyzed Christians for decades. Why haven’t we ended abortion? Who taught the church to play defense? Nothing is off limits. The cowardice, the compromise, the GOP hypocrisy—it’s all on the table.

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