Some thought that improvement was immientent in the first year under Brent Pry, but 4 games into the season, that seems to be far from the case for the 2022 Hokies. Andrew and Ricky discuss everything that happened in the in two massive flops in rivalry games, discuss the long term implications of it, and ultimately go to discuss what the future looks like for the Hokies, both against Pitt and in the long term.