Sara and Holly are talking today about “Wintering,” and how this seasons asks us to embrace all that it has to offer, instead of something just to “survive.” So grab some tea, dim your lights, cozy up, and learn how you can live in alignment with (and maybe even thrive in) the season.

Other things they talk about:

[Book] How to Winter

Sara and Holly are talking about a new concept they want you to try in 2026 to enhance your connections and strengthen community with others. They explain what a circle is, the different types you might try, and what to expect from it.

They also invite you to join us for their first IN-PERSON Event in Montgomery, Ohio on January 13 at 7pm. Sign up here for The Turning of the Year: A Women’s Circle. Spots are limited.

Other resources mentioned:

(Podcast) The Art and Science of Circling: How Real Connection can Heal Us with Dr. Avanti

(Podcast) A Psychic Medium on What’s Ahead (Carissa Schumacher)

It’s that weird week between Christmas and New Years Day, and Sara and Holly are sitting down to usher in 2026 together. They talk about the history of New Years resolutions, how to approach this “check point” with clarity and a growth mindset, and what some of the “Woo Factor” experts are saying about what’s to come. Join us right here as we say goodbye to 2025!

We’re back with part 2 of our conversation with Renée Wilson. In this episode, we talk about how we can be more intentional about our women-centered friendships. We focus on maintaining old friendships, including when to hang on and when to let go, as well as the importance of nurturing new friendships (and why new friendships are important, too). We dig into some practices to help you decide what kind of friend you want to be, what relationships you want to focus on, and how to create new connections if you are yearning for them.

Book - Essentialism (“If it’s not a hell yes, it’s a no)

Always Go to the Funeral NPR

Renée Wilson joins A Third Place today as our first guest!

Renée is a school psychologist turned youth minister turned executive coach turned financial advisor. In short - she loves Jesus and people. She also loves music, especially broadway, sporting events, and is really excited for the Winter Olympics.

Renée has been a good friend her whole life (Holly can confirm) and is a fierce advocate for the idea that friendships can be just as meaningful, sustaining, and life-changing as romantic partnerships. She talks with us about the sacredness of being known by our people (including how the Enneagram comes into play), how we can learn from Jesus’ approach to friendship, and why intimacy doesn’t have to be limited to romance. This is part 1 of a 2-part series, so stay tuned for more next week!

Best Friend isn’t a person, it’s a level

Sara and Holly are back with the second “woo woo” practice in their Woo Factor series: Astrology. They are talking about what Astrology actually is, sharing a bit about their personal natal charts, and discussing some big astrological shifts to be aware of for the world stage. Also, Sara is confused about her color season analysis results and Holly is texting her middle schooler about teeth drama.

Stay tuned in the coming weeks for more details on in-person events hosted by Sara and Holly in 2026!

Guided Astrology Workbook

I Don’t Believe In Astrology (Book)

Link: Free Astrology Natal Chart

It’s Holly’s birthday week! And Sara and Holly are joined by their very first (four legged) guest who, in all honestly, only got to stay for a few minutes.

In this first episode of “The Woo Factor” series, they share their unique stories on how they were initially drawn to explore the alternative spiritual and mystical practices some refer to as “Woo Woo.” These practices often come with some preconceived notions, especially for those of us raised in a Christian belief system. The bottom line is, if you’re taking a trip to Arizona, you might want to be prepared for a spiritual awakening.

This first episode focuses on Tarot Cards. Sara and Holly share their experience with this ancient deck of cards, the “30 day challenge” they did together, and what they have to say to others who are interested in trying it out. Thumbs up or thumbs down to Tarot? Listen to find out!

This week, Sara and Holly are keeping things light for the holiday with a fun Thanksgiving Q&A episode! From their favorite (and least favorite) dishes on the Thanksgiving table to some surprisingly heartfelt reflections, they cover it all. The conversation moves from silly to serious as they ask each other big questions about life, childhood, and parenting… and then attempt a lightning round, where they quickly discover they are terrible at answering lightning-round anything.

Pull up a chair, laugh along, and enjoy this cozy holiday episode.Wishing you a warm and Happy Thanksgiving! 🧡

Sara and Holly are talking today about why routine and ritual are both important. But while routine is the structure that holds our daily lives, ritual is the spirit that makes life rich. They dig into some small rituals they have embraced to make their days more meaningful (and to show up better for the people in their lives), how you can take a routine you already don’t hate and turn it into a ritual, and also why they’ll never tell you to say “I GET to do the dishes,” because dishes are always annoying.

Resources we mentioned:

Greenlights, Matthew McConaughey

Atomic Habits, James Clear

VegOut, “8 beauty routines Boomers used that were natural long before “clean beauty”

Liturgy of the Ordinary, Tish Harrison Warren

Sara’s Substack

Holly’s Substack

Holly and Sara talk about the start of holiday wish lists and wonder if Amazon is creating expectations that are too high for “the perfect thing at the perfect price,” especially when it comes to Sara’s search for a couch. They also dig deep on what purpose looks like (for real) in mid-life and beyond, including the concept of “big P” and “little P” purpose, Eric Erickson’s Stages of Development (Sara’s favorite psycho-social developmental analyst), Enneagram wings, and what you can do to kick-start your own purpose excavation (for both you and your kids).

Resources/ things we talked about:

Richard Rohr, Falling Upward: A Spirituality for Two Halves of Life

Eric Erickson’s Stages of Development

Nikki Erlick, The Measure