On the occasion of the 80th anniversary of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki we republish this interview with Noam Chomsky and Daniel Ellsberg from October 12, 2022.

“It’s beyond lunacy,” say Noam Chomsky and Daniel Ellsberg. In their 90s, the two men tirelessly fight to warn people of the need for urgent action to deal with climate change and the threat of nuclear war. Joining Paul Jay, they discuss the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, the war in Ukraine, and the climate crisis.