We're Not Wrong

About U.S.-Ukraine Relations and California Sober


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The gang discusses the latest turbulence between the U.S. and Ukraine, breaking down the tense Oval Office meeting between Presidents Trump and Zelenskyy that led to a suspension of U.S. military aid. With European leaders scrambling to respond, the crew debates what this means for Ukraine's security and the broader geopolitical landscape.


Then, the conversation shifts to the rise of "California Sober," a lifestyle trend ditching alcohol in favor of psychedelics. With "sober curious" events growing in popularity and former Surgeon General Vivek Murthy linking alcohol to cancer risks, they explore whether this approach is just a passing fad or the future of social substance use.


Chapters:


00:00:00 - Intro and Trump's Joint Congressional Address

00:19:06 - What's Going On with Ukraine

01:00:20 - California Sober

01:17:23 - Listener Emails

01:39:00 - Closing Thoughts and Outro

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