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Episode 3: Mature Women, Neurodivergence, and the Menopause Journey
In this episode, Jannine is joined by Sharon Marshall for a frank and relatable conversation about ADHD in women, neurodivergence, perimenopause, menopause, late diagnosis, masking, and what happens when the strategies that held everything together suddenly stop working. They explore workplace adversity, shifting identity, hormones, self understanding, and the reality of being told you are “too much”. This is an episode for women who are questioning, recognising themselves later in life, or trying to make sense of why things have become harder.
ADHD in women, menopause, perimenopause, late diagnosis, masking, midlife ADHD, workplace adversity, neurodivergence
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In this powerful episode, Jannine Perryman is joined by Jo Roberts, founder of the Every Child Matters campaign, for an unflinching conversation about what happens when children stop being the focus of education systems.
Drawing on their shared experience as teachers, SEND advocates, and parents, Jannine and Jo explore how the original child-centred principles behind Every Child Matters have been diluted over time, replaced by data, targets, stretched systems, and battles families were never supposed to have to fight.
Together, they discuss:
why children’s needs must come before systems
the reality of EHCPs, tribunals, and diagnosis pathways
school distress and attendance difficulties
why education does not always have to look like school
the growing shortage of educational psychologists
that parents are the experts in their own child
the widening gap between SEND law and SEND practice
At the heart of this conversation is a shared belief that children are being failed not by their needs, but by systems that treat those needs as inconvenient.
This is a candid, thought-provoking episode for parents, professionals, and anyone invested in creating education systems that put children, not data, back at the centre.
And yes, after all that, Jannine and Jo finally discover the one thing they disagree on: cats.
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Welcome to the very first episode of ADHD Wise Podcast. In this opening conversation, Jannine Perryman shares the story behind ADHD Wise, her own ADHD diagnosis journey, and the family experiences that shaped the work she has been building per professional work for the past 10 years.
From parenting neurodivergent children, to leaving teaching, to creating a space that bridges lived experience and professional insight, this episode sets the tone for what ADHD Wise Podcast is all about: honest conversations, practical wisdom, and support that meets people where they are.
Jannine also reads an extract from her upcoming book, Becoming ADHD Wise, reflecting on the moment she realised her understanding had outgrown the systems she worked within and how ADHD Wise became the bridge between understanding and thriving.
Whether you are neurodivergent yourself, parenting a neurodivergent child, supporting a partner, or working professionally in this space, this is a place to come as you are.
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ADHD Wise Podcast is a welcoming, non-judgemental space for adults with ADHD, parents of children with ADHD, and professionals who support them.
Rooted in real conversation, this…
This is not a space that tells you what to think. It is a space that offers information, reflection, and honest conversation, so you can think about what feels right for you. With guests who are experts in themselves and/or their field, ADHD Wise Podcast invites you to listen in as though you are right there at the table, part of something real.
Come as you are. Listen as you are. Take what helps. Leave what doesn’t. Above all, this is a place to think, feel, reflect, and explore how to live well and wisely with ADHD.