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Luke Burgis built his first company by stocking vending machines.
He was 23. He and his business partner put pita chips and granola bars in machines that had only ever held Snickers, and called it “food distribution” because it sounded better than what it was.
Years later, after selling that company and a few others, he had an existential crisis at 29, quit everything, and entered a seminary to figure out if he was meant to become a priest.
On his first week there, a slip of paper showed up in his mailbox. His assigned “house job” — unpaid work every seminarian does — was restocking the campus vending machines. Nobody there knew his history. Nobody was in on the joke.
Luke came back on the show to talk about what that moment taught him about belonging: how communities — families, workplaces, group chats, entire cities — quietly train you to want certain things and be a certain way, and what it actually takes to stay yourself inside of them without either disappearing into the group or cutting yourself off from it entirely.
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(6:40) Two competing drives wired into every human being
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I ask Joe that right at the top of this episode, and his answer ends up being more prophetic than either of us realized.
Joe and I help Carol figure out whether paying off a low-rate mortgage early actually makes sense once she’s already hit her retirement number — three years ahead of schedule.
We also walk a listener through how to hire her first accountant now that her tax situation has suddenly gotten complicated, and Joe finally explains, at length, why he’s not a fan of risk parity investing, even though he agrees with its biggest advocate on almost everything else.
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Susanna asks: I’ve been a DIY tax filer for years, but my situation just got a lot more complicated. My husband quit his W-2 job to start his own business, we moved to a new state with income tax, and we became landlords on a rental property that isn’t quite cash-flowing yet. I don’t know if I need a CPA, an EA, or something else, or how to even find and interview one. Where do I start?
Carol asks: Since I called in a few years ago with $750,000 saved, I’ve grown that to $1.4 million and I’m now on track to hit my retirement goal three years early, at age 57. Most of my retirement money is in pre-tax accounts, and my plan has been to bridge the gap to age 59 and a half using my brokerage account, plus a rental condo I still owe about $124,000 on at a 4.125% rate. Now I’m wondering if I should redirect my extra savings toward paying off that mortgage instead of building a bigger cash bridge. Does that make sense, or should I just focus on retiring as soon as possible?
Mark asks: You’ve talked before about building a portfolio along the efficient frontier, and I know Joe isn’t a fan of risk parity investing. But if you take the efficient frontier concept to its logical extreme, doesn’t it lead you toward a risk parity portfolio anyway? I’ve learned a lot from Frank Vasquez’s Risk Parity Radio podcast, especially about how these portfolios can perform well in different economic environments. So why is Joe against risk parity, even though he’s for the efficient frontier?
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(4:02) Why software can’t handle a messy tax situation
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Jack Raines liked his boss on Hinge.
It wasn’t reciprocal. A few months later, three beers deep at a bar, he told her he was quitting — then found a $250 plane ticket to Barcelona and left the country for a year.
I sat down with Jack to talk about his philosophy for how to actually spend your 20s.
We also get into why he turned $6,000 into $400,000 trading SPACs, then lost $200,000 chasing the same high.
And why “golden handcuffs” show up in a lot more places than just your job.
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(02:00) He liked his boss on a dating app
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Why did I just buy my first bond ever, after years of being 100% invested in stocks?
It comes down to a single number: 5.2%. That’s the highest 30-year Treasury yield we’ve seen since 2007, and it’s reshaping the calculus for every other investment out there.
In this month’s First Friday economic update, I break down a jobs report that lost jobs while unemployment somehow dropped, why bond yields spiking to a two-decade high matters more than people realize, and a wild regional divergence in home prices that I haven’t seen in a decade of watching this market.
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(00:00) Why the jobs report shocked economists this month
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Hackers broke into a real estate closing company’s servers and waited three months for the right deal — then intercepted a wire and stole $1.2 million from a couple who did everything right, right down to the closing table.
Dr. Eric Cole was a former CIA hacker, Cybersecurity Commissioner under President Obama, and longtime security advisor to Bill Gates. We’re resharing this conversation, originally released in June 2025, in honor of his sudden passing this year and the practical security knowledge he left behind.
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(03:41) Why you’re an easier target than a big bank
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The stock market is near record highs. Unemployment is low. So why does it feel like young people have never been more pessimistic about money?
Beth Kobliner has been writing about personal finance for over 30 years, and she says today’s 20- and 30-somethings have it harder than any generation she’s covered.
She has the data to prove it.
I sat down with Beth to dig into why the numbers and the mood don’t match, why the gambling boom isn’t really about gambling at all, and why tapping your phone to pay might be quietly costing you more than you think.
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(00:39) Why today’s 20- and 30-somethings have it harder than any generation Beth’s covered
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“Joe, how much did you spend on your wedding?”
That’s how this episode kicks off, and it sets up the theme running through everything else.
Joe and I help a couple figure out if their plan to retire together in 12 years actually holds up, and weigh in on whether a $60,000 wedding is a financially smart move.
We also help someone in Luxembourg decide whether to ditch a 10-year pension contract for DIY index investing.
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Mike asks: My spouse and I want to retire together in 12 years, at 63 and 55. We have $300K in Roth accounts, $300K pre-tax, $70K in a taxable brokerage, and $40K in savings, plus a military pension estimated at $80,000 a year. Am I approaching this correctly by treating all of our accounts as one combined portfolio, and what’s the Achilles heel in this plan?
Abby asks: My husband and I are planning a $60,000 wedding in New Zealand, which we can cash flow. We have $800,000 in investments and a combined income of $400,000. It feels against the FI mindset to spend this much, especially knowing what that money could grow into in 40 years. Is there a rule of thumb for how much to spend on a wedding?
Leah asks: My partner and I are immigrants living in Luxembourg, contributing to a private pension plan that gives us a nice tax deduction but charges about 1.2% in annual fees and locks us in for 10 years. We’re confident we could invest directly in ETFs ourselves and skip the fees, but I’m worried we’d end up tempted to gamble on individual stocks instead. Does it make sense to keep the pension plan, or go it alone?
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(05:26) Can this couple retire together in 12 years?
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Cody Berman was 19 when he learned about financial independence, and 25 when he reached it.
There’s no trust fund here, no lucky exit. Just a brutal train commute, over 30 side hustles, and a gap between what he earned and what he spent that he refused to let shrink.
I sat down with Cody to unpack the two very different paths to FI, why most people quit scalable side hustles right before they start paying off, and how house hacking became the single biggest lever in his entire journey.
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(00:00) Meet Cody Berman
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Is there really a housing shortage — or do we just have a lot of wealthy people buying up all the good stuff?
That’s the question kicking off this episode.
Joe and I also help a woman simplify a $1.5 million portfolio she’s managing on her own for the first time.
And we help a 26-year-old figure out whether paying off his mortgage or investing the difference gets him to financial independence faster.
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Karen asks: My brother is a wealthy patent attorney who owns three vacation homes and might buy a fourth. Is the U.S. actually short on housing, or do we just have income inequality pushing wealthier people to buy up more of the available supply?
Sarah asks: After a mini retirement, I let go of my financial planner and I’m now managing $1.5 million myself, split across a rollover IRA, Roth IRA, and taxable account — all invested in the same 13 funds. How do I simplify this down to three or four funds and make my asset allocation more efficient?
Michael asks: I’m 26, single, and about to buy a $350,000 house. When I run the numbers, paying off the mortgage versus investing the difference gets me to financial independence in about the same amount of time, but paying it off gives me a lower withdrawal rate. Am I thinking about this the right way?
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(01:41) Is America’s housing shortage actually real?
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Would you trust someone with your money if the “interview” for the job was a fifty-page pitch deck and a decade-long commitment?
That’s essentially what happens every time someone becomes a limited partner in a venture capital fund.
I sat down again with former Wharton professor and venture capitalist David Bell for part two of our conversation. This time, we go inside the mechanics of venture capital itself.
We cover how GPs and LPs actually split money and risk. How to evaluate a fund manager the way you’d evaluate a job candidate. And why taking on outside investors can quietly change what’s actually best for your business.
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(03:41) How venture capital actually works, in three tiers
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