Dive deep into the evolving landscape of AI in Cybersecurity with Phil Venables, former Chief Information Security Officer at Google Cloud and a cybersecurity veteran with over 30 years of experience. Recorded at RSA, this episode explores the critical shifts and future trends shaping our industry.

Caleb, Ashish and Phil speak about

• The journey from predictive AI to the forefront of Agentic AI in enterprise environments.
• How organizations are transitioning AI from experimental prototypes to impactful production applications.
• The three essential pillars of AI control for CISOs: software lifecycle risk, data governance, and operational risk management.
• Current adversarial uses of AI and the surprising realities versus the hype.
• Leveraging AI to combat workforce skill shortages and boost productivity within security teams.
• The rise of "Vibe Coding" and how AI is transforming software development and security.
• The expanding role of the CISO towards becoming a Chief Digital Risk Officer.
• Practical advice for security teams on adopting AI for security operations automation and beyond.

Questions asked:

(00:00) - Intro: AI's Future in Cybersecurity with Phil Venables

(00:55) - Meet Phil Venables: Ex-Google Cloud CISO & Cyber Veteran

(02:59) - AI Security Now: Navigating Predictive, Generative & Agentic AI

(04:44) - AI: Beyond the Hype? Real Enterprise Adoption & Value

(05:49) - Top CISO Concerns: Securing AI in Production Environments

(07:02) - AI Security for All: Advice for Smaller Organizations (Hint: Platforms!)

(09:04) - CISOs' AI Worries: Data Leakage, Prompt Injection & Deepfakes?

(12:53) - AI Maturity: Beyond Terminator Fears to Practical Guardrails

(14:45) - Agentic AI in Action: Real-World Enterprise Deployments & Use Cases

(15:56) - Securing Agentic AI: Building Guardrails & Control Planes (Early Days)

(22:57) - Future-Proof Your Security Program for AI: Key Considerations

(25:13) - LLM Strategy: Single vs. Multiple Models for AI Applications

(28:26) - "Vibe Coding": How AI is Revolutionizing Software Development for Leaders

(32:21) - Security Implications of AI-Generated Code & "Shift Downward"

(37:22) - Frontier Models & Shared Responsibility: Who Secures What?

(39:07) - AI Adoption Hotbeds: Which Security Teams Are Leading the Way? (SecOps First!)

(40:20) - AI App Sprawl: Managing Risk in a World of Custom, AI-Generated Apps