AI Inside

Yann LeCun, Meta’s chief AI scientist and Turing Award winner, joins us to discuss the limits of today’s LLMs, why generative AI may be hitting a wall, what’s missing for true human-level intelligence, the real meaning of AGI, Meta’s open-source strategy with Llama, the future of AI assistants in smart glasses, why diversity in AI models matters, and how open models could shape the next era of innovation

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CHAPTERS:

0:00:00 - Podcast begins

0:01:40 - Introduction to Yann LeCun, Chief AI Scientist at Meta

0:02:11 - The limitations and hype cycles of LLMs, and historical patterns of overestimating new AI paradigms.

0:05:45 - The future of AI research, and the need for machines that understand the physical world, can reason and plan, and are driven by human-defined objectives

0:14:47 - AGI Timeline, human-level AI within a decade, with deep learning as the foundation for advanced machine intelligence

0:21:35 - Why true AI intelligence requires abstract reasoning and hierarchical planning beyond language capabilities, unlike today's neural networks that rely on computational tricks

0:30:24 - Meta's open-source LLAMA strategy, empowering academia and startups, and commercial benefits

0:36:10 - The future of AI assistants, wearable tech, cultural diversity, and open-source models

0:42:52 - The impact of immigration policies on US technological leadership and STEM education

0:44:26 - Does Yann have a cat?

0:45:19 - Thank you to Yann LaCun for joining the AI Inside podcast

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss OpenAI's record-breaking $40 billion funding round, ChatGPT's image generation update sparking controversy, Amazon unveils its first agentic AI model, and Elon Musk's xAI takes a bold step toward the 'Everything App'.

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NEWS

0:02:07 - BREAKING: Google Gemini is shaking up its AI leadership ranks

0:06:21 - OpenAI closes $40 billion funding round, largest private tech deal on record

0:13:51 - ChatGPT’s new image generator is really good at faking receipts

0:23:03 - OpenAI plans to release a new ‘open’ AI language model in the coming months

0:28:37 - Amazon unveils Nova Act, an AI agent that can control a web browser

0:33:18 - How Meta’s Upcoming $1,000+ Smart Glasses With a Screen Will Work

0:39:41 - Musk's social media firm X bought by his AI company, valued at $33 billion

0:42:20 - MCP: The new “USB-C for AI” that’s bringing fierce rivals together

0:45:36 - Sinofsky: MCP - It's Hot, But Will It Win?

0:48:28 - AI-made works can’t be copyrightable, says US court… for now, at least.

0:56:24 - The Bluetooth Lady Speaks! ‘Voice-Over Actors Will Be Artisans in the AI Age’

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss OpenAI's ChatGPT-4o image generation update, Google's Gemini 2.5 Pro release, the emotional impact of chatbots on users, The Atlantic's LibGen database search tool, and more!

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NEWS

0:02:19 - OpenAI: Introducing 4o Image Generation

0:19:48 - Gemini 2.5: Our most intelligent AI model

0:32:27 - OpenAI has released its first research into how using ChatGPT affects people’s emotional well-being

0:37:18 - The Unbelievable Scale of AI’s Pirated-Books Problem

0:48:16 - Open Source devs say AI crawlers dominate traffic, forcing blocks on entire countries

0:52:59 - Perplexity wants to buy TikTok and open-source its algorithm

0:55:50 - "KI ist nur ein Werkzeug. Jedes Werkzeug kann missbraucht werden"

1:03:07 - AMC Theatres will screen a Swedish movie 'visually dubbed' with the help of AI

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss NVIDIA's GTC conference with CEO Jensen Huang's keynote on tokens, the Vera Rubin CPU, and the intersection of AI and robotics, plus more!

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NEWS

0:02:23 - Nvidia announces Blackwell Ultra GB300 and Vera Rubin, its next AI ‘superchips’

0:22:37 - Nvidia and Yum! Brands team up to expand AI ordering

0:25:49 - Google brings a ‘canvas’ feature to Gemini, plus Audio Overview

0:31:08 - Gemini 2.0, Google’s newest flagship AI, can generate text, images, and speech

0:34:42 - People are using Google’s new AI model to remove watermarks from images

0:36:06 - Google plans to release new ‘open’ AI models for drug discovery

0:40:36 - EFF: California’s A.B. 412: A Bill That Could Crush Startups and Cement A Big Tech AI Monopoly

0:44:20 - Ben Stiller, Mark Ruffalo and More Than 400 Hollywood Names Urge Trump to Not Let AI Companies ‘Exploit’ Copyrighted Works

0:49:11 - Anthropic CEO floats idea of giving AI a “quit job” button, sparking skepticism

0:52:19 - People say they prefer stories written by humans over AI-generated works, yet new study suggests that’s not quite true

0:57:36 - AI ring tracks spelled words in American Sign Language

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis examine OpenAI's new agent tools for developers, the Manus AI model, and Apple's AI feature delays, plus insights from Sameer Samat, Head of Android at Google, on Android's AI future.

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NEWS

00:02:52 - OpenAI launches new tools to help businesses build AI agents

00:12:18 - Manus probably isn’t China’s second ‘DeepSeek moment’

00:18:56 - Apple says some AI improvements to Siri delayed to 2026

00:23:14 - Interview with Sameer Samat, Android Head at Google

00:43:51 - Larry Page Has a New AI Startup

00:46:03 - AI Search Has A Citation Problem

00:51:12 - OpenAI says it has trained an AI that’s ‘really good’ at creative writing

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Jason Howell returns from Mobile World Congress with some AI trends to discuss along with Jeff Jarvis. OpenAI has some pricey plans in the works, Amazon announces Alexa Plus, and more!

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NEWS

0:04:11 - Gemini Live ‘Astra’ video and screen sharing rolling out in March

0:13:52 - Deutsche Telekom and Perplexity announce new ‘AI Phone’ priced at under $1K

0:16:56 - OpenAI Plots Charging $20,000 a Month For PhD-Level Agents

0:22:31 - The LA Times published an op-ed warning of AI’s dangers. It also published its AI tool’s reply

0:28:22 - The future of Google Search just rolled out on Labs - and AI Mode changes everything

0:35:41 - Amazon announces AI-powered Alexa Plus

0:38:06 - Judge denies Musk’s attempt to block OpenAI from becoming for-profit entity

0:39:18 - Eerily realistic AI voice demo sparks amazement and discomfort online

0:45:57 - Turing Award winners warn over unsafe deployment of AI models

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss Anthropic's Claude 3.7 SONNET, Chegg suing Google over AI summaries, Perplexity's new Comet browser, the UK delaying AI regulation, and more!

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NEWS

02:50 - Anthropic launches a new AI model that ‘thinks’ as long as you want

12:36 - Chegg sues Google for hurting traffic with AI as it considers strategic alternatives

19:24 - Perplexity AI teases a new browser 'for agentic search'

20:36 - Dia, a new web browser from makers of the Arc browser, is taking aim at Google Chrome with clever AI features

32:26 - UK delays plans to regulate AI as ministers seek to align with Trump administration

32:57 - Daily Mail copyright screaming

33:20 - Kate Bush and Damon Albarn among 1,000 artists on silent AI protest album

35:50 - Accelerating scientific breakthroughs with an AI co-scientist

40:55 - Introducing Muse: Our first generative AI model designed for gameplay ideation

45:08 - AI ‘inspo’ is everywhere. It’s driving your hair stylist crazy.

52:03 - O'Reilly: The End of Programming as We Know It

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss HP acquiring Humane, XAI releasing Grok-3, Mira Murati's new AI startup, the New York Times integrating AI in the newsroom, and more!

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NEWS

0:02:36 - HP to Acquire Parts of Humane, Ai Pin Startup From Ex-Apple Managers, for $116 Million

All of Humane's AI pins will stop working in 10 days

0:09:56 - Elon Musk’s xAI releases its latest flagship model, Grok 3

Benedict Evans on Grok

Elon Musk’s terrifying vision for AI

0:19:30 - Mira Murati debuts Thinking Machines Lab, her AI startup

0:22:18 - New York Times goes all-in on internal AI tools

0:29:40 - Google’s AI Efforts Marred by Turf Disputes

0:34:19 - Introducing Perplexity Deep Research

0:45:23 - On Probabilism and Determinism in AI

AI Agents are Everywhere and Nowhere

0:57:14 - Jeff rant: Dumbest AI memo you will ever read

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss the AI Action Summit in Paris, Elon Musk's bid for OpenAI, the Thompson Reuters copyright lawsuit, massive AI spending by tech giants, and ChatGPT Operator buying expensive eggs!

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NEWS

0:02:00 - UK and US refuse to sign international AI declaration

Macron touts Europe and trolls Trump at Paris AI summit

Roose: 5 Notes From the Big A.I. Summit in Paris

0:10:25 - Elon Musk-Led Group Makes $97.4 Billion Bid for Control of OpenAI

0:16:00 - ‘Doomers’ Review: Hunkered Down, Debating the Peril and Promise of A.I.

0:18:45 - Thomson Reuters Wins First Major AI Copyright Case in the US

0:25:55 - Tech Giants Double Down on Their Massive AI Spending

0:30:00 - Meta lays off thousands as it pivots to AI

0:31:21 - IT Unemployment Rises to 5.7% as AI Hits Tech Jobs

0:38:40 - Save the date: Google I/O is May 20-21, 2025.

0:39:51 - Google One AI Premium adds NotebookLM Plus, 50% student discount

0:43:47 - Google starts testing new Search ‘AI Mode’ internally – Here’s an early look at it

0:47:41 - AI crawler wars threaten to make the web more closed for everyone

0:50:46 - I let ChatGPT’s new ‘agent’ manage my life. It spent $31 on a dozen eggs.

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Jason Howell and Jeff Jarvis discuss Adobe's AI ethics initiatives with Grace Yee, Meta's new Frontier AI Framework, Google's removal of weapons restrictions from AI principles, and OpenAI's new Deep Research tool.

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0:01:43 - INTERVIEW with Grace Yee, Senior Director of Ethical Innovation at Adobe

0:26:13 - Meta says it may stop development of AI systems it deems too risky

0:31:09 - Google removes pledge to not use AI for weapons from website

0:34:50 - OpenAI Unveils A.I. Tool That Can Do Research Online

0:39:47 - OpenAI to release new artificial intelligence model for free

0:41:05 - Gemini 2.0 is now available to everyone

0:44:14 - Elon Musk Ally Tells Staff ‘AI-First’ Is the Future of Key Government Agency

0:46:33 - Josh Hawley: DeepSeek users in US could face million-dollar fine and prison time under bill

0:49:37 - Anthropic claims new AI security method blocks 95% of jailbreaks, invites red teamers to try

0:52:22 - AI systems could be ‘caused to suffer’ if consciousness achieved, says research

0:55:15 - AI ‘godfather’ predicts another revolution in the tech in next five years

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