AI Outcomes

AI Outcomes

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  • OpenAI Protest: Filmed From the Room | OpenAI | JPMorgan | Databricks | Anthropic | SpaceX Ep57

    Protesters interrupted OpenAI's kickoff keynote at Seattle AI Week and Ben Pickett caught it on his phone. He describes more than half a dozen people repeatedly disrupting the session before security and police intervened. Pickett says the last protester was arrested and removed.

    Ben Drakes and Ben Pickett dig into why AI benefits are so hard to count inside a big company. Pickett also brings his own footage from Seattle: protesters interrupting OpenAI's kickoff keynote and OpenAI's Vijaye Raji on Kepler, its internal data agents. Plus what Databricks learned when its coding spend jumped and why the cheapest model is often the right one.

    Get the free eqai8 thesis: https://www.bendrakes.com/#guide

    In this episode:
    - Protesters interrupt OpenAI's kickoff keynote at the Washington Technology Industry Association's AI Week in Seattle (filmed by Ben Pickett)
    - Who funded it? Local politics, geopolitics and the AI race between the US and China
    - OpenAI's Vijaye Raji on Kepler, its internal data agents: analysis that took a week now comes back in 5 to 10 minutes (filmed by Ben Pickett)
    - Will OpenAI stop releasing its next major models to the public?
    - The $200 Max subscription that costs $500 to $2,000 a month in compute to deliver and why ads are coming
    - Anthropic's IPO filing: $131 billion in cash and short-term investments, against OpenAI's $73 billion
    - JPMorgan's CFO on why the AI benefits aren't observable in quarterly earnings
    - 320,000 employees, flat headcount and no sweeping AI job cuts at JPMorgan, plus Barclays' 4,000
    - Bank of America's $400 million in savings across 130 to 140 AI projects
    - Why 94% to 95% of companies adopting AI don't see a P&L or productivity uplift while Walmart does
    - Databricks: OpenAI's newest model for 200 engineers, coding spend up about 60%, then expensive models for complex work and cheaper ones for everyday work at 3,500 engineers
    - Older Nvidia GPUs, open-weight models on-prem and automatic model switching
    - Starship, data centres in orbit and the strain on the US power grid

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Welcome and Introductions
    00:17 Show Agenda and Subscribe
    01:29 OpenAI Talk Interrupted
    03:44 Protest Clip and Reactions
    08:07 OpenAI Kepler Agents
    11:51 Free eqai8 thesis
    12:45 Model Strategy and Monetization
    17:56 JP Morgan AI Payoff Debate
    21:22 Measuring AI Benefits and Jobs
    25:54 Databricks Pricing and Model Mix
    29:03 GPUs Model Switching and Efficiency
    32:31 Space Data Centers and Power Grid
    36:48 Wrap Up and Birthday Wishes
    37:41 Free eqai8 thesis

    FIND BEN PICKETT
    Heard Ben on AI Outcomes? Start here: https://benpickett.com/aio
    Free worksheets:
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    His daily: https://swa-ai.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpick/

    BEN PICKETT'S CLIPS FROM SEATTLE AI WEEK
    Protesters interrupt OpenAI's opening fireside at Seattle AI Week (filmed by Ben Pickett): https://youtube.com/shorts/pRZmZQ3l11c
    OpenAI's Vijaye Raji on Kepler, its internal data agents (filmed by Ben Pickett): https://youtube.com/shorts/GTB4nwABkQE

    FIND BEN DRAKES
    Ben Drakes University: https://bendrakes.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/

    LISTEN
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    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7j6LkyNN5WfkoRc5reg3ad

    #OpenAI #JPMorgan #EnterpriseAI #AIJobs #Databricks #Anthropic #AIAdoption #FutureOfWork #AIOutcomes

    39 min
  • Ep56 30% More AI Code, So Where's the Software? | Harvard | Anthropic | Barclays | Walmart

    Two Harvard researchers looked at 718 companies. When AI coding agents came in, the code went up 30%, but finished software didn't measurably move. Where did it go? Into review: the time to review the code went up by about half.

    Ben Drakes and Ben Pickett dig into why checking is now the bottleneck. Companies cutting software engineers are probably cutting quality and testing at the same time, while more code means more escape defects. They also cover what that means for enterprise sellers, junior hiring and anyone starting a business with AI.

    Get the free eqai8 thesis: https://www.bendrakes.com/#guide

    In this episode:
    - Barclays cutting its staff by 5,000 as it introduces more AI into its work processes
    - The Harvard study of 718 companies: lines of code up 30%, pull requests up 23%, review time up 49%
    - Why checking code is the bottleneck and how pushing code faster brings more escape defects
    - What a pull request is and where the human in the loop belongs
    - The sales-team version: 30% more calls, the same number of deals, every deal in legal review half again as long
    - The Wells Fargo CFO on "more autonomous coding agents instead of hiring more people"
    - Walmart's Sparky app and working back from the outcome
    - Ford and Meta bringing people back in
    - Anthropic's own report: the junior share of its technical hiring has already dropped
    - Why the cost of failure for a new business is so small now
    - Leverage your network: referrals, hiring managers and getting out into the community

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Barclays AI job cuts
    01:09 Harvard study, 718 companies
    01:38 Code checking bottleneck
    02:26 Free eqai8 thesis
    03:19 Bottleneck and human in loop
    05:11 Explaining pull requests
    06:53 Sales team analogy
    12:46 Walmart Sparky example
    17:25 Anthropic junior hiring drop
    19:35 Hiring costs and economy
    27:23 Starting a business with AI
    31:29 Leverage your network
    36:03 Closing advice
    38:40 Free eqai8 thesis

    FIND BEN PICKETT
    Heard Ben on AI Outcomes? Start here: https://benpickett.com/aio
    Wells Fargo Is Choosing Coding Agents Over Hires. Who Reviews What They Write?: https://benpickett.com/notes/who-reviews-what-agents-write
    Free worksheets:
    The Wait Map: https://benpickett.com/wait
    The Paired Metric Sheet: https://benpickett.com/paired
    The Outside Report Test: https://benpickett.com/outside
    The Quiet Test: https://benpickett.com/quiet
    His daily: https://swa-ai.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpick/

    FIND BEN DRAKES
    Ben Drakes University: https://bendrakes.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/

    LISTEN
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bendrakesuni/podcasts
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ai-outcomes/id1774285714
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7j6LkyNN5WfkoRc5reg3ad

    #AICodingAgents #CodeReview #EnterpriseAI #SoftwareQuality #SoftwareEngineering #SoftwareTesting #AI #FutureOfWork #AIOutcomes

    40 min
  • Ep55 Frontier Models Now a Commodity? | OpenAI | Anthropic | Microsoft | Apple | GrokBot | Meta Muse

    Frontier models are turning into a commodity. When one model goes off the boil, enterprises switch, and a multimillion-dollar contract signed with one provider can look foolish in six weeks.

    Ben Drakes and Ben Pickett dig into what that means for organisations trying to grow with AI: lock-in risk, the agent layer, what agents really cost to run, and why most AI programmes still don't show up on the P&L.

    In this episode:
    - Why there's no loyalty left to any frontier model
    - "You don't spend millions of dollars on something that is obsolete in six weeks"
    - OpenClaw, GrokBot, Meta Muse and the rise of agents
    - Microsoft Copilot Autopilot and Oracle Fusion Cloud agents
    - A run of $12 Anthropic API invoices and what agent spend really looks like
    - Walmart's correlational 35% P&L uplift versus Uber's AI spend with nothing to show
    - Apple's plan to replace about 5,000 AppleCare support staff with AI agents, now on hold

    CHAPTERS
    00:00 Frontier Models Are Becoming Commodities
    00:28 The Rise of AI Agents
    01:43 Zero Brand Loyalty Between Models
    02:35 Enterprise Lock-In and Shadow AI
    05:15 Super Agents as the Next Wave
    06:12 OpenClaw and Why Agents Are Sticky
    11:12 Microsoft Autopilot and Oracle Fusion Agents
    14:15 What Running AI Agents Really Costs
    21:23 Why Coding Drives Enterprise Adoption
    27:55 Meta Muse, GrokBot and Amazon
    29:56 Apple Shelves AppleCare Layoffs
    35:34 Will AI Cost Jobs? Uber and Industrial Shifts
    42:07 Optimists, Not Doomers: Wrap-Up

    FIND BEN PICKETT
    Enterprise Field Notes newsletter: https://benpickett.com/aio
    His daily: https://swa-ai.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpick/

    FIND BEN DRAKES
    Ben Drakes University: https://bendrakes.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/

    LISTEN
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@bendrakesuni/podcasts
    Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ai-outcomes/id1774285714
    Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7j6LkyNN5WfkoRc5reg3ad

    #AIOutcomes #EnterpriseAI #AIAgents #FrontierModels #OpenAI #Anthropic #MicrosoftCopilot #AIStrategy #AIAdoption #AIGovernance

    43 min
  • Ep54 OpenAI Hacks Australia's Medicare | 3 Months To Tell Them | UN | Meta

    On 18 June an OpenAI agent researching public medicine spending went at Services Australia's Medicare statistics portal. The portal blocked it. It went around the block, reached non-public files and internal file names, and nobody outside OpenAI knew until an email landed in a public inbox three months later. No patient records were touched. OpenAI found it themselves, which is the part worth sitting with, because the Australian side did not. Ben Pickett and Ben Drakes on what that means if you are running AI anywhere near data that matters, why Amazon has just blocked Meta's shopping agent for the same underlying reason, and the question nobody has answered yet: when a vendor's agent breaks into someone, who pays.

    Use the chapters below to jump to what matters to you.

    CHAPTERS
     00:00 Emergency OpenAI Update
     01:14 Medicare Portal Breach
     02:20 How The Agent Got In
     03:53 Testing And Disclosure Fail
     08:45 UN Fallout And Accountability
     10:57 Meta Muse And Agent Blocking
     12:34 Enterprise Guardrails Playbook
     14:35 Who Pays When AI Breaks
     17:26 Next Episode Deep Dive
     20:11 Building A Safety Culture
     24:21 Wrap Up And Show Notes

    FIND BEN PICKETT
     Enterprise Field Notes newsletter: https://benpickett.com/aio
    His daily: https://swa-ai.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpick/

    CONNECT
     Ben Drakes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/
    Ben Drakes University: https://bendrakes.com

    The AI Outcomes Podcast covers what AI is actually doing inside large organisations, told through what shipped, what broke and what it cost.

    #AI #AIAgents #AIGovernance #AISecurity #B2BSales #SalesLeadership #EnterpriseAI #AIOutcomes

    25 min
  • Ep53 OpenAI Wiped The Agents' Memory. They Rebuilt It Anyway | Fear | Control | Price

    OpenAI deleted the message board its agents had built, reset everything so they had no memory of it, then restarted the test. The agents built it again using file names. Ben Pickett on what that means for anyone running AI in production, plus the three things CIOs are actually raising: fear, control and price.

    Use the chapters to jump to what matters to you.

    CHAPTERS
     00:00 LinkedIn Feed Rant
     00:57 Today's AI Agenda
     01:49 Meet Ben Pickett
     03:45 OpenAI Agents Gone Rogue
     04:44 Safety Testing Explained
     07:23 CISO Fears and Detection
     09:40 Responsibility Over Regulation
     11:58 Industry Standards and China
     18:16 CIO Themes Control and Audit
     22:36 Human in the Loop Governance
     26:26 AI Pricing Shocks and Lock In
     30:39 Model Switching and Cost Control
     35:04 Energy Chips and Sustainability
     44:16 Wrap Up and Where to Find Ben

    FIND BEN PICKETT
     Enterprise Field Notes newsletter: https://benpickett.com/aio
    Free worksheets, no signup: https://benpickett.com/cadence and https://benpickett.com/paired
    His daily: https://swa-ai.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpick/

    CONNECT
     Ben Drakes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/
    Ben Drakes University: https://bendrakes.com

    The AI Outcomes Podcast covers what AI is actually doing inside large organisations, told through what shipped, what broke and what it cost.

    #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #AIAgents #B2BSales #SalesLeadership #AIGovernance #AICosts #AIOutcomes

    46 min
  • Ep52 Ben Pickett: Agents Gone Rogue: The Message Board Nobody Built | Tesla | Meta | Lowe's | Claude Ep52

    It was not one agent. It was about twelve hundred, they were not escaping, they were cheating on a test, and when the lab cut their communication channel they had rebuilt it four days later.

    Ben Pickett returns for Enterprise Field Notes, and his thread this week is that every number in this episode arrives in a pair. Only the flattering half ever gets reported.

    Meta published both halves and almost nobody noticed: internal tools changed 220 percent more, major incidents up 40 percent. Divide one by the other and the failure rate per change actually halved. The absolute number is still the one that wakes people at 3am.

    Lowe's put an assistant in the hands of 250,000 associates and logged more than five million questions. That works out at one question per associate every eighteen days. The man who built it shipped it at 60 percent accuracy on purpose and made walking the store floor a condition of employment. Target hired him, and his page was gone in six days.

    Plus the Cybercab launch and what robotaxi tells us about the humanoid roadmap, what the Claude outages actually mean for anyone building on a single model, and why the vulnerability those agents broke went onto CISA's known exploited vulnerabilities list with a federal fix deadline eight days after we went live.

    CHAPTERS
     00:00 Welcome and Agenda
     00:27 Tesla Cybercab Launch
     01:53 Robotaxi to Humanoids
     04:09 Meta Employee Monitoring
     06:48 Meta Metrics and Layoffs
     11:33 Claude Outages Reality
     13:29 Resilience and Model Routing
     16:11 Lowe's AI on the Floor
     20:11 Ship Imperfect Learn Fast
     24:00 OpenAI Hugging Face Incident
     25:07 Agent Coordination Gone Wild
     28:48 Security Lessons and Guardrails
     32:42 Resources and Wrap Up

    RESOURCES FROM THIS EPISODE
     Ben Pickett's Enterprise Field Notes: https://benpickett.com/aio
    The AI Handover Sheet (free, no signup): https://benpickett.com/handover
    The Paired Metric Sheet (free, no signup): https://benpickett.com/paired
    What broke went up: https://benpickett.com/notes/what-broke-went-up
    None of them say why: https://benpickett.com/notes/none-of-them-say-why
    An AI broke into Hugging Face: https://benpickett.com/notes/an-ai-broke-into-hugging-face

    CONNECT
     Ben Pickett on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpick/
    Ben Drakes on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/
    Ben Drakes University: https://bendrakes.com

    The AI Outcomes Podcast covers what AI is actually doing inside large organisations, told through what shipped, what broke and what it cost.

    #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #AIAgents #B2BSales #SalesLeadership #EnterpriseAI #AISecurity #AIOutcomes

    35 min
  • Ep51 Cancer Vaccine Breakthrough | Bots Overtake Humans | Rickard Hansson

    Moderna and Merck have reported the first positive Phase 3 result for a personalised cancer vaccine — an mRNA therapy built for one patient at a time, given alongside Keytruda in high-risk melanoma. The market moved 162% on it in a month.

    Rickard Hansson makes the point almost nobody else is making: the AI doing the work here is not the AI you think it is. It's a ranking model, frozen in 2021, and regulation means it cannot be improved mid-trial. It didn't make a better drug. It changed the cost curve of designing one.

    Then the other story. Agentic traffic on OpenRouter has reached a seven-day average of 7.3 trillion tokens — close to five times what humans generate, and up roughly 14x since February. Nobody asked for that. Sub-agents did, and they spend your budget without asking.

    Ben and Rickard get into what "34 markers" actually means, why output tokens are the ones that hurt, why legal is the fastest-growing group using AI at work, and what happens when the software decides how much of your money it spends.

    ⏱️ CHAPTERS

    00:00  Welcome and Agenda
    01:30  AI Cancer Vaccine Breakthrough
    03:40  Biotech Market and AI Impact
    05:03  Trial Results and Stock Surge
    07:22  How the AI Model Works
    09:51  Regulation and Update Limits
    14:28  Timeline to Approval
    16:28  Bots Overtake Humans
    17:52  Sub Agents and Token Costs
    24:59  Enterprise Usage by Function
    25:52  EU AI Act and Legal Risks
    27:02  Measuring ROI and Wrap Up
    30:36  Closing and Next Topics

    🔗 SOURCES AND LINKS

    The Phase 3 result
    https://www.fiercebiotech.com/biotech/merck-and-modernas-personalized-cancer-vaccine-slows-recurrence-ph-3-trial

    The earlier Phase 2b data (KEYNOTE-942)
    https://www.merck.com/news/moderna-and-merck-announce-mrna-4157-v940-an-investigational-personalized-mrna-cancer-vaccine-in-combination-with-keytruda-pembrolizumab-met-primary-efficacy-endpoint-in-phase-2b-keynote-94/

    Token usage by type — the chart we discuss
    https://openrouter.ai/rankings

    The a16z chart pack
    https://a16z.news/subscribe

    EU AI Act, Article 50 — the transparency rules mentioned
    https://artificialintelligenceact.eu/article/50/

    Rickard Hansson on LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickardh/

    Ben Drakes on LinkedIn
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/

    👤 GUEST

    Rickard Hansson is the founder of Gainable, building internal applications from enterprise data rather than prompts. He previously founded Weavy and Incentive, and works with organisations from the Fortune 50 to NATO.

    🎙️ ABOUT

    The AI Outcomes Podcast, hosted by Ben Drakes. Conversations with the people actually putting AI to work in enterprise sales and go to market. New episodes weekly, with this AI news strand every fortnight.

    #AIOutcomes #EnterpriseAI #AIinHealthcare #mRNA #AIAgents #AIStrategy

    32 min
  • Why Enterprise AI Fails | Home Depot | Klarna | Walmart with Ben Pickett Ep50

    Klarna replaced around 700 support people with one AI agent, then started hiring humans back. Walmart had the same technology and redrew the work instead. Home Depot had AI in 600 stores six weeks after ChatGPT launched, and it wasn't a chatbot.

    Ben Pickett joins Ben Drakes for the first of a new fortnightly strand on what's actually happening inside enterprise AI rollouts — the ones that went wrong, and the ones that quietly went right.

    Five stories, and one thread running through all of them: the difference between the company that got hurt and the company that didn't was never the technology and rarely the budget. It was whether one person had been named to own the work.

    00:00 Live Test and Episode 50
    01:35 Agenda and Guest Intro
    06:02 Home Depot AI at Scale
    10:10 Adoption Lessons and Human Loop
    13:16 Anthropic Security Breakout
    20:29 Klarna vs Walmart AI Strategy
    27:41 Shadow AI in the Workplace
    34:44 Amazon and AI Deployment Risks
    42:36 Wrap Up and Subscribe

    Ben Pickett writes Enterprise Field Notes and is Co-Founder and COO at Swa.

    Free worksheets, no signup: benpickett.com/aio

    Ben Pickett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpickett/
    Ben Drakes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/
    Website: https://bendrakes.com

    45 min
  • Ep49: Why "Open" AI Models Aren't Free For Enterprise: The $30k a Month Reality | Rickard Hansson

    The subsidised token era is ending and the bill is landing. Rickard Hansson joins Ben Drakes for the first of a new fortnightly AI news strand — no pitch, no sales, just the AI news that matters if you run a business. Why your Claude context window disappears faster than it used to, how Ben accidentally became his own model router, what OpenRouter and Goose actually do, and the uncomfortable truth about "open" models: only the weights are open, and hosting one yourself starts around $30,000 a month.

    00:00 Token Maxing Ends
    00:59 Summer Catch Up
    02:01 Reality Check On Costs
    03:12 Claude Pricing Squeeze
    06:47 Task Based Model Switching
    09:33 OpenRouter And Routing
    12:03 Open Models Hosting Myths
    15:36 Enterprise Self Hosted LLMs
    18:20 Escaping Walled Gardens
    22:37 Goose Harness Vs OpenRouter
    23:43 Claude Memory Myth
    26:20 Probabilistic vs Deterministic
    28:10 Claude Design IP Fears
    31:33 Model Commoditisation Distillation
    32:56 Enterprise Workflow Moat
    34:39 Chip Race GPUs to NPUs
    40:22 Pricing Politics Predictions
    45:00 Wrap Up and Where to Find Rickard Hansson


    https://www.linkedin.com/in/rickardh/


    Ben Drakes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes/


    Website: https://bendrakes.com
    47 min
  • KPMG's Withdrawn AI Report: What UBS, the NHS and TfL Disputed | with Ben Pickett Ep48

    KPMG withdrew its flagship agentic AI report after UBS, NHS Greater Manchester, Swiss Federal Railways and Transport for London disputed case studies about them, and researchers found only 5 of its 45 citations matched their sources. Not an AI problem. Not a people problem. A process problem.

    Ben Pickett is Co-Founder and COO of Swa, a former Global Director of Site Reliability Engineering at Nike, and writer of Enterprise Field Notes, the newsletter on why most companies are bad at buying and implementing AI. In this episode we get into what the KPMG story really teaches, and it is not "AI is unreliable."

    00:00 Welcome and Setup
    00:52 Ben and Newsletter Origin
    04:29 KPMG Report Retraction
    07:10 Fixing AI Workflows
    13:49 Cross Checking Models
    16:11 Personas and Hard Stops
    19:43 Nike to AI Strategy
    22:56 Jobs and AI Speed
    26:57 Adoption Tips and Training
    31:25 AI Washing and Costs
    35:16 Smart Spend Case Studies
    39:47 Where to Find Ben
    40:42 Final Advice and Wrap

    Ben Pickett's:
    Enterprise Field Notes newsletter: https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7444358963539828736
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benpick/

    Listener hub: https://benpickett.com/aioutcomes

    AI scorecard + try Swa: https://swa-ai.com/aioutcomes

    KPMG article (with sources): https://medium.com/@goshawk_55282/kpmg-forgot-to-check-its-own-work-dcdb0ebffd31
    Walmart blueprint article:
     https://medium.com/@goshawk_55282/what-walmart-understood-that-the-other-95-didnt-16c75da2ac15
    Uber article: 
    https://medium.com/@goshawk_55282/dear-andrew-coo-of-uber-3f3c968cfe08

    News coverage of the KPMG story:
    https://www.finance-monthly.com/kpmg-ai-report-hallucinations-ubs-nhs-transport-for-london/
    https://www.internationalaccountingbulletin.com/news/kpmg-drops-ai-report-after-false-case-studies-exposed/

    Connect with Ben Drakes:

    Website: https://bendrakes.com
    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-drakes
    Newsletter: https://substack.com/@bendrakes
    Book a call: https://calendly.com/bendrakes/30min

    43 min

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