This week, we sit down with Professor Ardeshir Mahdavi, an internationally recognised expert in building science, affiliated with Graz University of Technology and the Vienna University of Economics and Business, to explore a question that fundamentally challenges how we think about indoor environmental quality: What if the single biggest barrier to creating healthy, comfortable buildings isn't our lack of scientific models—but our failure to recognise that the search for optimal indoor conditions may be philosophically flawed from the start?
Inspired by his thought provoking keynote at Indoor Air 2026 in Singapore, this conversation unpacks what happens when we bring philosophy, art and science together to critically revisit the prevailing paradigm in indoor environmental quality research. Drawing on insights from Aristotle, Leonardo da Vinci and Werner Heisenberg, Ardeshir challenges us to reconsider how we define adequate indoor environmental conditions, how we develop models to predict human comfort and health, and whether our obsession with precision is actually preventing us from understanding what truly matters.
Key Topics Discussed:
- The Illusion of Sharp Lines: Standards and regulations draw precise thresholds for temperature, humidity, CO2, sound and light. But human requirements are not fixed. They vary by individual, by age, by health status, by time of day, by culture. We all agree people are different, yet we expect models to deliver universal answers. This cognitive dissonance shapes everything from thermal comfort research to building commissioning. Leonardo da Vinci's sfumato technique offers a metaphor: nature doesn't have sharp lines, and neither do human needs.
- Plateau and Escarpment, Not Bell Curves: The traditional view of human response to indoor conditions assumes a bell curve with an optimal peak. But research in lighting and other domains suggests a more accurate model is the plateau and escarpment. Over a wide range of conditions, performance remains stable.
- Health Versus Comfort, and the Ethics of Manipulation: Some argue that comfort is not necessarily healthy. That we should design buildings to challenge occupants thermally, to exercise their metabolic and immune systems. But who decides what is good for people? Designing stairs to be more attractive than lifts, separating buildings to force movement, installing acoustic masking systems without informing occupants.
- The Heisenberg Metaphor and Model Uncertainty: Heisenberg's uncertainty principle states that you cannot simultaneously measure the position and momentum of a particle with unlimited precision. The more precisely you know one, the less precisely you know the other. This offers a powerful metaphor for indoor environmental quality models.
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Professor Ardeshir Mahdavi
Graz University of Technology | Vienna University of Economics and Business
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Chapters
- 00:00:00 Introduction: Meeting Ardeshir Mahdavi and the Philosophy of Indoor Environmental Quality
- 00:02:35 The Risk of Narrow Focus: Why Building Science Needs Philosophical Thinking
- 00:15:55 Da Vinci's Sfumato: Sharp Lines Versus the Reality of Human Experience
- 00:22:45 The Problem with Precision: Standards, Negotiation and Boundary Conditions
- 00:36:16 Aristotle's Wisdom: Matching Methods to the Nature of the Inquiry
- 00:41:45 Models and Constructs: The Difference Between Weight and Comfort
- 00:50:01 The Plateau and Escarpment Model: Rethinking Distribution Curves
- 00:59:09 Physiology and Compensation: Why Humans Aren't Precise Instruments
- 01:03:17 Health Versus Comfort: The Ethical Question of What Buildings Should Provide
- 01:07:16 Manipulation and Agency: Staircases, Sound Masking and Cultural Differences
- 01:33:32 The Global South Challenge: Beyond Smart Buildings to Urban Systems
- 01:47:04 Heisenberg's Uncertainty: Precision Limits in Human-Centric Models
- 01:54:22 AI and Understanding: Tools Versus Delegation of Thinking