In this rich and reflective episode, Jennifer Sconyers sits down with Cedar Landsman and Lucien Demaris, the visionary co-founders of Relational Uprising, to explore how relational culture can transform organizations from the inside out. Together, they unpack the limitations of individualism in U.S. culture and make a compelling case for centering relationships—within teams, communities, and movements—as a radical and necessary act of change leadership.
Relational Uprising supports mission-driven organizations in building deep connection, mutual understanding, and sustainable team cultures. Their approach is a powerful counter to the transactional norms embedded in dominant systems, and one that honors embodiment, belonging, and collective resilience.
What relational culture really means—and why it's critical for sustainable changeHow individualism undermines social change work and what we can do insteadHow somatics and embodied leadership intersect with systems changeThe role of storytelling and resonance in rebuilding trust and communityHow Cedar and Lucien work with mission-driven organizations to cultivate collective capacityWhen organizations should consider relational culture work (hint: it’s not just when there’s a crisis)Why tending to bias and inclusion requires more than a checklist—it requires connection“We tend to think of relationships as a side effect of the work. But what if relationships are the work?” —Cedar Landsman“We must tend to the relational aspect of embodiment—it’s essential for protecting our communities and building resilience.” —Lucien Demaris“Isolation is not a resilient state. Leaders thrive when they are well supported.” —Cedar LandsmanCedar’s journey from food justice and urban planning into relational systems changeLucien’s background in somatics, wellness, and his critique of disembodied wellness cultureHow their methodology is different: not plug-and-play, but a deep practice of collective awarenessALC’s swimming pool analogy: shallow, medium, and deep work—and howRelational Uprising fits in Real-life applications across sectors: nonprofits, cooperatives, higher education, and faith communitiesWhy this work is especially important now, amidst DEI backlash, organizational burnout, and social isolationRelational Uprising has a residential advanced workshop coming in Fall 2025.A prerequisite intro workshop is required.Join the interest list at relationaluprising.org to be notified when a new intro workshop is scheduled. They’re also hosting a leadership convening focused on the unique challenges in progressive and social justice organizations.
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