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All the stale things (JS Party #115)


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Divya leads a deep discussion with Jerod, KBall, and Nick on what’s stagnating in browsers. What has remained the same in browser tech over the last 20 years that remains a pain point in working with browsers? For example - Focus in browsers hasn’t changed much in 20 years. Why is that and how do we go about making all the stale things in browser tech better?

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  • Featuring:

    • Divya – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
    • Jerod Santo – GitHub, LinkedIn, Mastodon, X
    • Kevin Ball – Website, GitHub, LinkedIn, X
    • Nick Nisi – Website, GitHub, Mastodon, X

    Show Notes:

    Segment 1: APIs that were not developed
    • [Proposal] Focus Traversal API
    • Input elements are still terrible; CSS appearance property
    • Container queries
    • Dates still suck, but they are being fixed
    • Luxon
    • Web Components (RIP?)
    • BUT Shadow DOM
    • Consistency of CSS Properties BUT Houdini
    • Button cursor — why do still have to do button { cursor: pointer; } ???
    • SVG amazing but still 2nd class citizen
    • Accessibility should be down in the browser
    • Segment 2: Hypothesizing
      • Why didn’t these APIs get anywhere?
      • What would’ve needed to happen for them to have progressed?
      • Browser wars; the move towards chromium
      • Segment 3: Shout-outs!!

        (in order of appearance)

        • KBall: Rachel Andrew’s CSS Grid articles: Understanding CSS Grid: Creating A Grid Container and Understanding CSS Grid: Grid Lines
        • Jerod: Justine Haupt’s open source DIY rotary cell phone
        • Nick: Tatiana Mac’s talk titled How Privilege Defines Performance
        • Divya: Understanding the ECMAScript spec, part 1
        • Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

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