This week we were so glad to be joined by Emilie Friedlander! Emilie is a freelance writer, contributing editor at Vice, and a co-founder of AdHoc. We talk about her recent piece in Vice "There Is No Such Thing as Independent Music in the Age of Coronavirus", as well as new albums from Car Seat Headrest, Johanna Warren, and Pure X. Emilie's Piece:  https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/v749p3/theres-no-such-thing-s-independent-music-in-the-age-of-coronavirus Mat Dryhurst & Holly Herndon's Podcast: https://www.patreon.com/interdependence