Robbie Martin brings on prolific foreign policy journalist/writer Dave DeCamp of Antiwar.com again to talk about the increasing hysteria and fear Americans are exhibiting over China and how there is seemingly bipartisan support in DC and among the public for an aggressive stance against China. Dave and Robbie then move on to the different camps of Libertarianism, first the camp that espouses Zionist talking points, neocon rhetoric on China and wants to work with the MAGA-right and the other camp that still resists all forms of US imperialism. The discussion concludes with an assessment of where things are at with US/Russia relations in the Biden-era.

Intro/outro song: Ph.D. - Changing Partners

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